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Omaha, calling to a big pot with many draws on turn

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  1. skipcun skipcun is offline

    Cancún
    Mexico

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    Jan 14th, 2009 (1/14/2009 2:33pm)

    I am fairly new to omaha, and was sittinig comfortable as chip leader in this tourney, was afraid to call this all in and loose a nice stack early, didnt know yet that this was a very lag player wich i found a few hands later after he has been raising reraising too often.
    I timed out thinking wether to call or not but i guess it was a call
    Any advice
    Full Tilt Poker Game #10039430457: $10 + $1 Tournament (76108133), Table 6 - 25/50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 15:21:03 ET - 2009/01/14

    Seat 1: jk1981 (3,275)

    Seat 2: jfiiue4 (4,775)

    Seat 3: AKplayer49 (10,571)

    Seat 4: skipcun (10,915)

    Seat 5: duke of can (4,990)

    Seat 6: joroni29 (2,805), is sitting out

    Seat 7: The_Sandhman (7,475)

    Seat 8: struep (3,515)

    Seat 9: WayneWanker (5,160)

    jk1981 posts the small blind of 25

    jfiiue4 posts the big blind of 50

    The button is in seat #9

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to skipcun [Qc 7s 6c As]

    AKplayer49 calls 50

    skipcun calls 50

    duke of can calls 50

    joroni29 folds

    The_Sandhman calls 50

    struep folds

    WayneWanker calls 50

    jk1981 folds

    jfiiue4 has 15 seconds left to act

    jfiiue4 raises to 375

    AKplayer49 folds

    skipcun calls 325

    duke of can folds

    The_Sandhman has 15 seconds left to act

    The_Sandhman folds

    WayneWanker calls 325

    *** FLOP *** [5d 2c 8c]

    jfiiue4 has 15 seconds left to act

    jfiiue4 bets 1,050

    skipcun calls 1,050

    WayneWanker calls 1,050

    *** TURN *** [5d 2c 8c] [Td]

    jfiiue4 bets 3,350, and is all in

    skipcun has 15 seconds left to act

    skipcun has requested TIME

    skipcun is sitting out

    skipcun has timed out

    skipcun folds

    WayneWanker folds

    skipcun has returned

    Uncalled bet of 3,350 returned to jfiiue4

    jfiiue4 mucks

    jfiiue4 wins the pot (4,450)

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 4,450 | Rake 0

    Board: [5d 2c 8c Td]

    Seat 1: jk1981 (small blind) folded before the Flop

    Seat 2: jfiiue4 (big blind) collected (4,450), mucked

    Seat 3: AKplayer49 folded before the Flop

    Seat 4: skipcun folded on the Turn

    Seat 5: duke of can folded before the Flop

    Seat 6: joroni29 didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 7: The_Sandhman folded before the Flop

    Seat 8: struep didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 9: WayneWanker (button) folded on the Turn
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Jan 14th, 2009 (1/14/2009 3:25pm) in reply to skipcun

    You have to call 3350 to win 7800 so you have pot odds of 2.33:1.

    You have 8 outs to the str8 (OESD) and maybe 5 outs (you don't double count the str8 cards or the 5c or Tc) to the non-nut flush since it looks like he's pushing a set.

    13 outs once looks like you are about 26% to make your hand. You need 3:1 to be getting the correct price to call since you don't have a made hand of any kind.

    Folding was correct in this situation.
  3. skipcun skipcun is offline

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    Jan 14th, 2009 (1/14/2009 7:46pm) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    thx for the comment, actually it was good after all finished 2nd, was still playing when i posted
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  4. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Jan 16th, 2009 (1/16/2009 5:09am) in reply to skipcun

    AQ76, even with suits, isn't a wonderful hand in any form of Omaha-you want four cards that work together in some fashion, and this group comes to the same thing as playing two holdem hands.

    While the raiser is in a lot of hands, you don't have much, plus two limpers are yet to act after you call the pre-flop raise. If one of them is playing second-hand low with aces, you'll have to throw away your hand, along with the 375 you've already invested.

    You can call the bet on the flop, but what do you do if raised? I'd rather raise there myself, though this play would be horrible if you believed you were facing a higher flush draw, because typical players might well go for all their money with a high flush draw and no backup.

    The turn was poor for you, leaving you three clean outs, and there's no way I could justify calling off any more chips-muck the hand and have done with it.
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