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  1. Echo Echo is offline

    White Bear Lake, MN
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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 6:25pm)

    what do you do here? i am not really the greatest omaha player.

    pokerstars Game #29260143459: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/06/11 17:33:42 ET
    Table 'Prieska III' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: lauech53 ($38.40 in chips)
    Seat 3: matra63 ($25.40 in chips)
    Seat 4: Echo69 ($28.25 in chips)
    Seat 5: Moose822 ($55.20 in chips)
    Seat 6: totgig ($15.95 in chips)
    Moose822: posts small blind $0.10
    totgig: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Echo69 [7d 5c 6s 7c]
    lauech53: folds
    matra63: folds
    petcat25 leaves the table
    Echo69: calls $0.25
    Moose822: calls $0.15
    totgig: raises $0.75 to $1
    Echo69: calls $0.75
    Moose822: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [4c 7s Th]
    Moose822: checks
    mariobiederm joins the table at seat #2
    totgig: checks
    Echo69: bets $2
    Moose822: calls $2
    totgig: calls $2
    *** TURN *** [4c 7s Th] [8c]
    Moose822: bets $8.60
    totgig: folds
    Echo69: ?

    i have the low end str8 (which is probably not good), a boat draw and a 7 high flush draw (gutshot straight flush draw). folding here just seems terrible to me but like i said i am not the greatest omaha player.
  2. Charlamaigne Charlamaigne is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 7:06pm) in reply to Echo

    Id dump it
  3. CJDeman CJDeman is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 7:11pm) in reply to Echo

    1st off, I would be the pot on the flop. Although the board doesnt look that scary, it can turn scary very easily on the turn - as we see above.

    As for the hand, given that the fact that there were no flush draws on the flop, it seems likely that at least one of your opponents was drawing to a high wrap, so it looks like you are drawing to a full house, giving you 10 outs.

    As a rule of thumb, you need 13 outs on the turn to call a pot siz bet - IF you believe you can also win another pot size bet on the river. That is unlikely here - unless your opponent actually has a set of tens or 8s.

    I think this is a fold...I suspect more experienced players would say it is an easy fold.
     
  4. MyJobisYou MyJobisYou is offline Banned Scammer

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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 7:16pm) in reply to CJDeman

    Peel river. Check/fold if you miss, lead out if you hit flush or house. (assuming you're properly rolled)

    You played it wrong, but you have a flushdraw that is probably live, doubtful he has J89/569 with clubs, so peel river. If you hit you're getting paid, if you brick you lose 13$.

    Pot flop next time, same result if he does have J89 imo even if you do pot flop, but that's the right play in the future.
  5. imsaiby imsaiby is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 7:37pm) in reply to MyJobisYou

    Fold pre, this just about the best you could hope for playing this hand and look where your at.
  6. jtj03 jtj03 is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 8:20pm) in reply to imsaiby

    As played you can not fold, fold pre would be the right play, however this is the best flop you could have ask for outside of floping 20 outs. You can fold in pl omaha with 14 outs your problem is only one is a nut out.
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  7. JustGivr JustGivr is offline

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    Jun 11th, 2009 (6/11/2009 8:24pm) in reply to imsaiby

     
    Originally Posted by imsaiby View Post

    Fold pre.

    You must not play much omaha.

    Depending on your image, a raise or call preflop is good here. Pot the flop and play this more aggressively with 2nd set. As played, call to see a river card.
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