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omaha hand call or fold to river bet

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  1. skipcun skipcun is offline

    Canc�n
    Mexico

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    Mar 5th, 2009 (3/5/2009 9:50pm)

    dont play omaha very often, and still not very sure if this was played well on my side

    Full Tilt Poker Game #10987518636: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (82547107), Table 8 - 60/120 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:40:53 ET - 2009/03/05

    Seat 1: ReDaMeNtS (3,910)

    Seat 3: gandhi666 (1,346)

    Seat 4: ahtnamas311 (10,907)

    Seat 6: LittleMissP (3,669)

    Seat 7: skipcun (8,945)

    Seat 8: DANKSMKR (3,090)

    Seat 9: macromolecule (9,555)

    LittleMissP posts the small blind of 60

    skipcun posts the big blind of 120

    The button is in seat #5

    *** HOLE CARDS ***

    Dealt to skipcun [5s Js Th Ks]

    DANKSMKR folds

    macromolecule folds

    ReDaMeNtS calls 120

    gandhi666 folds

    ahtnamas311 calls 120

    LittleMissP has 15 seconds left to act

    LittleMissP calls 60

    skipcun checks

    *** FLOP *** [9s Kc 5h]

    LittleMissP checks

    skipcun bets 360

    johnybignuts sits down

    johnybignuts adds 3,679

    Tony Gazzo sits down

    Tony Gazzo adds 4,062

    ReDaMeNtS folds

    ahtnamas311 calls 360

    LittleMissP folds

    *** TURN *** [9s Kc 5h] [4s]

    skipcun has 15 seconds left to act

    skipcun bets 720

    ahtnamas311 has 15 seconds left to act

    ahtnamas311 calls 720

    *** RIVER *** [9s Kc 5h 4s] [Ts]

    skipcun has 15 seconds left to act

    skipcun checks

    ahtnamas311 has 15 seconds left to act

    ahtnamas311 bets 1,800

    skipcun calls 1,800

    *** SHOW DOWN ***

    ahtnamas311 shows [8s 7s 6c As] a flush, Ace high

    skipcun shows [5s Js Th Ks] a flush, King high

    ahtnamas311 wins the pot (6,240) with a flush, Ace high

    The game is now Pot Limit Hold'em with 80/160 blinds

    *** SUMMARY ***

    Total pot 6,240 | Rake 0

    Board: [9s Kc 5h 4s Ts]

    Seat 1: ReDaMeNtS folded on the Flop

    Seat 3: gandhi666 didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 4: ahtnamas311 showed [8s 7s 6c As] and won (6,240) with a flush, Ace high

    Seat 6: LittleMissP (small blind) folded on the Flop

    Seat 7: skipcun (big blind) showed [5s Js Th Ks] and lost with a flush, King high

    Seat 8: DANKSMKR didn't bet (folded)

    Seat 9: macromolecule didn't bet (folded)
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Mar 6th, 2009 (3/6/2009 5:10am) in reply to skipcun

    Well, you get a cheap flop and make 2-pair. (top&bottom). This is not a great hand in full ring play. Even so, I think the bet on the flop is reasonable. If no one has anythiing you could take it down. You must think about what you're doing though.

    "You are out of position."

    Don't build big pots OOP. You don't say what you have seen the opponents doing and this is a $5.00 tournament. They will chase weak and/or strong to get there. You were called, so you know he has something. I recommend a check on the turn for pot control. You may already be beat by a set or better two pair when you are called.

    The turn brings all kinds of draws into play and you may have a hard time showing down this hand. If you check and the villan puts in a strong bet, you should fold the turn. This board is not in your favor.

    Some on this forum will say this is weak play. It's only weak if you plan to be a long term loser. Bet and raise with strong hands and strong draws in PLO. Weak 2-pair hands aren't big winners. You win small or lose big trying to protect the weak hands.
  3. Ajint Orange Ajint Orange is offline

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    Mar 6th, 2009 (3/6/2009 7:46am) in reply to MYBLUEDOG

    MYBLUEDOG said exactly what I was thinking.

    On the flop, you may be a winner, so you were right to try to take it down. Once you are called, you really need to go into defensive mode. You are out of position and your hand is not very strong.

    I would certainly check the flop, only calling a bet if it is small and the person doing the betting is someone that I've seen get out of line with just top pair. Even then, I'd probably lean towards folding, because there are too many ways that you are going to lose.

    Position in Omaha is extremely important. More so than in Hold 'em. Definately don't put money into a pot where you have no idea where you are and you are out of position. It is a very quick way to end up on the rail.
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