<SPAN class=postbody>What is your play here?

Payouts: First - $50, second - $30, third - $20

Short stack has less than 1 bb and I really really really really don't want to come in third.

On one hand I don't want him to get a free card to catch his flush or get a chance to back door a low. On the other hand I have the best hand and should bet it.

Option 1. Check it and if the turn bricks I can either pot it ori if opponent bets I can put him all in. If a scare card hits I can check/fold like a little girl.

Option 2. Pot bet on the flop since I obv have the best hand here.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9504725600: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (72537514), Table 1 - 250/500 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 8:24:57 ET - 2008/12/15
Seat 1: uhhson (426)
Seat 2: JuanPas (10,514)
Seat 7: CardFish2 (2,560)
JuanPas posts the small blind of 250
CardFish2 posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CardFish2 [Kc Qh Qc 8s]
uhhson folds
JuanPas has 15 seconds left to act
JuanPas calls 250
CardFish2 checks
*** FLOP *** [5h Th Qs]
JuanPas has 15 seconds left to act
JuanPas checks
CardFish2 ???</SPAN>

Your head up against the chip leader and in great position for 2nd.

There's nothing wrong with a check in this spot or even a min. bet. There's no need

to pot it. Personally I'd check the flop and min. bet any card on turn with your hand.

If big stack pots you on a scary turn after you've made a bet then decide what you

want to do.

 

Originally Posted by qjuice14

Pot bet it all day. If the chipleader calls and outdraws you, then he more often has a hand that beats the shortstack too so you will still get 2nd. This is a great chance to pick up chips so you can have a realistic shot at winning.

The shortstack folded... So if he bust here he get's 3rd..

I am checking here.. if the turn is a brick for a straight flush draw.. then I pot it... and take it down.. If I fill up I am v betting all day..

 

Originally Posted by McArdle

Regardless of the situation you should always try to keep the pot somewhat small when flopping a set.Check flop leaving you the option to call a turn bet even if a scare card hits for a chance to fill up and scoop cause there won't be a low possible.Soooo many people play sets wrong in o8.Keep pot small unless u fill up!!!

wow that might be the worst thing ive ever seen, you have the NUTS if you flop top set. thats like saying keeping the pot small when you flop the nut straight because there are flush draws. if you play scared you will never make money, ESPECIALLY in omaha. Omaha is about putting the pressure on and getting in ahead on 60/40 races. If you pass up on getting money in ahead i dont know what you are doing playing poker. If you play nitty you miss tons of value from hands that flop middle/bottom set with no redraw except their 1 out that tons of low limit omaha players play.

as for a sit n go here i would maybe bet 1/2-3/4 the pot and if the turn gets crazy check/fold

Big stack was the typical donk you see in these low level SnGs. Never bet unless he had something big but a calling station with marginal hands/draws. He pretty much was playing his cards and I doubt he could tell you how I was playing.

And yeah, if big stack had min raised pre I would have folded.

Maybe I should have bet 1/2 pot on flop and checked the turn.

Here is how it played out.

Full Tilt Poker Game #9504725600: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (72537514), Table 1 - 250/500 - Pot Limit Omaha H/L - 8:24:57 ET - 2008/12/15
Seat 1: uhhson (426)
Seat 2: JuanPas (10,514)
Seat 7: CardFish2 (2,560)
JuanPas posts the small blind of 250
CardFish2 posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CardFish2 [Kc Qh Qc 8s]
uhhson folds
JuanPas has 15 seconds left to act
JuanPas calls 250
CardFish2 checks
*** FLOP *** [5h Th Qs]
JuanPas has 15 seconds left to act
JuanPas checks
CardFish2 bets 1,000
JuanPas calls 1,000
*** TURN *** [5h Th Qs] [6d]
JuanPas checks
CardFish2 bets 1,060, and is all in
JuanPas calls 1,060
CardFish2 shows [Kc Qh Qc 8s]
JuanPas shows [2c 3h Ad Jh]
*** RIVER *** [5h Th Qs 6d] [8h]
CardFish2 shows three of a kind, Queens, for high
JuanPas shows a flush, Jack high, for high and 8,6,5,2,A, for low
JuanPas wins the high pot (2,560) with a flush, Jack high
JuanPas wins the low pot (2,560) with 8,6,5,2,A
CardFish2 stands up
The blinds are now 300/600
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5,120 | Rake 0
Board: [5h Th Qs 6d 8h]
Seat 1: uhhson (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: JuanPas (small blind) showed [2c 3h Ad Jh] and won (5,120) with HI: a flush, Jack high; LO: 8,6,5,2,A
Seat 7: CardFish2 (big blind) showed [Kc Qh Qc 8s] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Queens

 

Originally Posted by Jennifear

Pot pre. He's folding.

No he's not.

 

Originally Posted by Card Fish

 

Originally Posted by Jennifear

Pot pre. He's folding.

No he's not.

Not this time. This time he was (lol) trapping. But what I meant was that usually, when someone limps the SB, they fold to the raise.

 

Originally Posted by Jennifear

 

Originally Posted by Card Fish

 

Originally Posted by Jennifear

Pot pre. He's folding.

No he's not.

Not this time. This time he was (lol) trapping. But what I meant was that usually, when someone limps the SB, they fold to the raise.

You probably haven't played too many Omaha hilo games at this level. You probably get a fold less than 1/2 the time. Against this guy I doubt if he is folding 10% of the time in this situation.

 

Originally Posted by zurk89

 

Originally Posted by McArdle

Regardless of the situation you should always try to keep the pot somewhat small when flopping a set.Check flop leaving you the option to call a turn bet even if a scare card hits for a chance to fill up and scoop cause there won't be a low possible.Soooo many people play sets wrong in o8.Keep pot small unless u fill up!!!

wow that might be the worst thing ive ever seen, you have the NUTS if you flop top set. thats like saying keeping the pot small when you flop the nut straight because there are flush draws. if you play scared you will never make money, ESPECIALLY in omaha. Omaha is about putting the pressure on and getting in ahead on 60/40 races. If you pass up on getting money in ahead i dont know what you are doing playing poker. If you play nitty you miss tons of value from hands that flop middle/bottom set with no redraw except their 1 out that tons of low limit omaha players play.

as for a sit n go here i would maybe bet 1/2-3/4 the pot and if the turn gets crazy check/fold

Umm I do pretty good at teh plo8 and yor thinking is what the majority of hold em players will carry over to omaha.And I don't mind opposing arguments but your ignorance just tilts me.Just about everything you say here is wrong and acting like you know what you are talking about with such minimal experience is a joke.

As for the hand I'll say again keep pot small unless u fill up or have redraws .Check flop to control the pot.I mean think of all the cards that slow u down on the turn 8,9,j,k,a,any heart .Sure the 6 looks like a good card but now only a 9,j or board pair scoop u the pot.I may sound like a nit but I have logged about 5 million o8 hands and know the spots to play fast and when to slow down.A set on a draw heavy board is one were u are better off keeping the pot small.

Oops for some reason i didn't even look at stack sizes.I guess u gotta go with it then.