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  1. I never play Omaha but had some time to kill and was horsing around and this hand developed. Don't I have a freaking flush???? People at the table told me I didn't.

    pokerstars Game #25563710565: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/03/03 13:12:52 CT [2009/03/03 14:12:52 ET]
    Table 'Ludovica' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: RobDe68 ($21.90 in chips)
    Seat 2: tompy1973 ($33.40 in chips)
    Seat 3: wu444 ($55.95 in chips)
    Seat 4: papillon 999 ($25.45 in chips)
    Seat 5: boheidi ($26.10 in chips)
    Seat 6: Lofoten ($25 in chips)
    Seat 7: bananaSugar ($16.25 in chips)
    Seat 8: johan glans ($25.15 in chips)
    Seat 9: fh2k5 ($17.60 in chips)
    bananaSugar: posts small blind $0.10
    johan glans: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bananaSugar [6d 3d Jd Kd]
    fh2k5: folds
    RobDe68: calls $0.25
    tompy1973: folds
    wu444: folds
    papillon 999: folds
    boheidi: folds
    Lofoten: folds
    bananaSugar: raises $0.75 to $1
    johan glans: folds
    RobDe68: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [Jh 2d Qc]
    bananaSugar: bets $1.25
    RobDe68: calls $1.25
    *** TURN *** [Jh 2d Qc] [Ts]
    bananaSugar: bets $2.25
    RobDe68: calls $2.25
    *** RIVER *** [Jh 2d Qc Ts] [9c]
    bananaSugar: bets $8.80
    RobDe68: calls $8.80
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    bananaSugar: shows [6d 3d Jd Kd] (a straight, Nine to King)
    RobDe68: shows [3s Ks Th Jc] (a straight, Nine to King)
    bananaSugar collected $12.80 from pot
    RobDe68 collected $12.75 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $26.85 | Rake $1.30
    Board [Jh 2d Qc Ts 9c]
    Seat 1: RobDe68 showed [3s Ks Th Jc] and won ($12.75) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 2: tompy1973 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: wu444 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: papillon 999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: boheidi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Lofoten (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: bananaSugar (small blind) showed [6d 3d Jd Kd] and won ($12.80) with a straight, Nine to King
    Seat 8: johan glans (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: fh2k5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. ummm you definitely don't have a flush.. you have all diamonds in your hand Edit: You can ONLY use 2 cards from your hand, and you must use 2 only. Thus you don't have a flush.
  3.  
    Originally Posted by bombers88 View Post

    ummm you definitely don't have a flush.. you have all diamonds in your hand

     
  4. How many of my cards can I use?
    Thread Starter
  5. oooouuuu, glad I sucked out then. Guess I had a bit of misunderstanding on the game. lolo
    Thread Starter
  6. Ok, here I am only using one card, don't I have a boat?????
    pokerstars Game #25565035866: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2009/03/03 13:48:21 CT [2009/03/03 14:48:21 ET]
    Table 'Margo III' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: bananaSugar ($15 in chips)
    Seat 2: handsome75 ($10.95 in chips)
    Seat 3: ROY1968X ($9.45 in chips)
    Seat 4: DeepMunti ($40.70 in chips)
    Seat 5: Coach Bus ($16.85 in chips)
    Seat 6: YosemiteMark ($28.90 in chips)
    Seat 7: leblanc80 ($15.60 in chips)
    Seat 8: fh2k5 ($14.95 in chips)
    Seat 9: paiwitz92 ($8.50 in chips)
    DeepMunti: posts small blind $0.10
    Coach Bus: posts big blind $0.25
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to bananaSugar [2h 2d As Qh]
    YosemiteMark: calls $0.25
    leblanc80: folds
    fh2k5: folds
    paiwitz92: folds
    bananaSugar: calls $0.25
    handsome75: calls $0.25
    ROY1968X: calls $0.25
    DeepMunti: calls $0.15
    Coach Bus: checks
    *** FLOP *** [5d 5s 3s]
    DeepMunti: checks
    Coach Bus: checks
    YosemiteMark: checks
    bananaSugar: checks
    handsome75: checks
    ROY1968X: bets $0.75
    DeepMunti: folds
    Coach Bus: folds
    YosemiteMark: folds
    bananaSugar: calls $0.75
    handsome75: calls $0.75
    *** TURN *** [5d 5s 3s] [Qs]
    bananaSugar: checks
    handsome75: bets $2.50
    ROY1968X: calls $2.50
    bananaSugar: calls $2.50
    *** RIVER *** [5d 5s 3s Qs] [Qd]
    bananaSugar: bets $3
    handsome75: calls $3
    ROY1968X: folds
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    bananaSugar: shows [2h 2d As Qh] (three of a kind, Queens)
    handsome75: shows [4s 8c 7d 9s] (a flush, Queen high)
    handsome75 collected $16.45 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $17.25 | Rake $0.80
    Board [5d 5s 3s Qs Qd]
    Seat 1: bananaSugar showed [2h 2d As Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Queens
    Seat 2: handsome75 showed [4s 8c 7d 9s] and won ($16.45) with a flush, Queen high
    Seat 3: ROY1968X (button) folded on the River
    Seat 4: DeepMunti (small blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 5: Coach Bus (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 6: YosemiteMark folded on the Flop
    Seat 7: leblanc80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: fh2k5 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: paiwitz92 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Thread Starter
  7. No, you have to use 2 of your cards. No more but also no less.
  8. wow, I just threw 3 buyins away in 10 hands, what an AH!
    I guess I just learned a lesson tho. Don't play a freaking game you don't know!!!
    thanks tho.
    Thread Starter
  9. This is also why Omaha is so profitable. Anyway, befor eyou play omaha again, I would read up a little about it. Phil Helmuth's book has a chaper about Omaha that is pefect for beginners.
  10. tyvm
    Thread Starter
  11. yeah you might wnat to read up before you start plo again. Just make sure you use two cards and exactly two cards from your hand to make the best hand.
  12.  
    Originally Posted by aad View Post


    This is also why Omaha is so profitable. Anyway, befor eyou play omaha again, I would read up a little about it. Phil Helmuth's book has a chaper about Omaha that is pefect for beginners.

    Maybe I'm an idiot, but . . . I picked up this book at the dollar bin of my local used book store and I think that this chapter is simply the worst Omaha advice I've EVER seen. I know its difficult to find good information about Omaha. However, his advice regarding playing AAxx is just awful!!! He suggests in that chapter that if you have AAxx you should be willing to go broke preflop every time. I simply cannot agree. I'm no Omaha wizard, in fact, I'm just learning the game. However, I can think of many, many times, that you are better of folding AAxx preflop against a multitude of raisers in a micro cash game. For example, if neither of my aces can make the nut flush, I'll probably fold to a reraise and more than one other caller. This is not a hard and fast rule, because Omaha is not a game for hard and fast rules, but PH seems to suggest a hard and fast rule of getting it in w/AAxx every time. IMO this is terrible advice for a beginner.

    P.S., upon further review, I think that this chapter does have other useful discussions for beginners such as the trouble hands section which is a good reminder that certain hands should be folded preflop simply because when you hit you almost always will have the 2nd nutz. However, my main problem is PH's play with AAxx, which may actually be valid advice at high stakes, but is probably bad advice at low limits.
  13.  
    Originally Posted by 13Jayhawk13 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by aad View Post


    This is also why Omaha is so profitable. Anyway, befor eyou play omaha again, I would read up a little about it. Phil Helmuth's book has a chaper about Omaha that is pefect for beginners.

    Maybe I'm an idiot, but . . . I picked up this book at the dollar bin of my local used book store and I think that this chapter is simply the worst Omaha advice I've EVER seen. I know its difficult to find good information about Omaha. However, his advice regarding playing AAxx is just awful!!! He suggests in that chapter that if you have AAxx you should be willing to go broke preflop every time. I simply cannot agree. I'm no Omaha wizard, in fact, I'm just learning the game. However, I can think of many, many times, that you are better of folding AAxx preflop against a multitude of raisers in a micro cash game. For example, if neither of my aces can make the nut flush, I'll probably fold to a reraise and more than one other caller. This is not a hard and fast rule, because Omaha is not a game for hard and fast rules, but PH seems to suggest a hard and fast rule of getting it in w/AAxx every time. IMO this is terrible advice for a beginner.

    P.S., upon further review, I think that this chapter does have other useful discussions for beginners such as the trouble hands section which is a good reminder that certain hands should be folded preflop simply because when you hit you almost always will have the 2nd nutz. However, my main problem is PH's play with AAxx, which may actually be valid advice at high stakes, but is probably bad advice at low limits.

    AAxx is always ahead preflop. If you can get it in by all means you should. Every time. Loses a lot more than AA in holdem but should never be folding that hand unless you are super deepstacked. If you are deepstacked and can't get a lot of your stack in preflop then take a flopa nd play the game post flop. But if you are folding it with less than 100BB then you shouldn't be playing PLO.

    Now I have never read PH's book but having read his recent inane blog post about playing KQhh with 7 BB I can only imagine the genius in that book.
  14. Fold this pre sir!
  15.  
    Originally Posted by aad View Post

    Phil Helmuth's book has a chaper about Omaha that is pefect for beginners.

    If you know nothing about the game this chapter will at least get you headed in the right direction. However, if you really want to learn the game pick up a copy of http://www.amazon.com/Pot-Limit-Omah.../dp/0818407263. Simply the best PLO information currently available.
  16. Hwang's book is thorough & excellent. Ray Zee's Hi-Low-Split Poker is also definitely worth owning. Bobby Baldwin does the Omaha 8OB in Doyle's Super System. Deuces Cracked site has good Omaha tutorial.
  17.  
    Originally Posted by Ugottook420 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by bombers88 View Post

    ummm you definitely don't have a flush.. you have all diamonds in your hand

    lol whatta newbbiee.. u can only use 2 cards in your hand
  18.  
    Originally Posted by satcheldog View Post

    Hwang's book is thorough & excellent. Ray Zee's Hi-Low-Split Poker is also definitely worth owning. Bobby Baldwin does the Omaha 8OB in Doyle's Super System. Deuces Cracked site has good Omaha tutorial.

    yo ima cash game speicalist at 2/4 and 1/2 PM if u need any help lol i got the perfect system... it's called never fold :-)

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