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which one of us was the idiot.

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  1. c_rev c_rev is offline

    Apo, AE
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    Dec 2nd, 2007 (12/2/2007 11:19am)

    I know you guys won't shy away to calling me one, so if I horribly misplayed this hand please let me know. Its a micro-donkament and the enemy has been raising alot in position, he also showed two bluffs. I give him a raising range of almost ATC. I am playing pretty TAG, but in these donkaments that means nothing to the other players because they really don't pay attention to anyone but themselves. Any advice is appreciated.

    pokerstars Game #13603842834: Tournament #68053527, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/12/02 - 12:07:20 (ET)
    Table '68053527 149' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: pantherman50 (1700 in chips)
    Seat 2: c_rev2 (4650 in chips)
    Seat 3: deonvda (5255 in chips)
    Seat 4: etobman (2375 in chips)
    Seat 5: FpU_Darkstar (1100 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 6: sockpuppet23 (2400 in chips)
    Seat 7: ChrisCall (2970 in chips)
    Seat 8: Guddal (5990 in chips)
    Seat 9: H1ghLander72 (4335 in chips)
    pantherman50: posts small blind 75
    c_rev2: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to c_rev2 [Ac Jh]
    deonvda: folds
    etobman: folds
    FpU_Darkstar: folds
    sockpuppet23: calls 150
    ChrisCall: folds
    Guddal: calls 150
    H1ghLander72: raises 450 to 600
    pantherman50: folds
    c_rev2: raises 1450 to 2050
    sockpuppet23: folds
    Guddal: folds
    H1ghLander72: calls 1450
    *** FLOP *** [4h 9h Kh]
    c_rev2: bets 2600 and is all-in
    H1ghLander72: calls 2285 and is all-in
    Guddal said, "nice pot"
    *** TURN *** [4h 9h Kh] [8s]
    *** RIVER *** [4h 9h Kh 8s] [Qc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    c_rev2: shows [Ac Jh] (high card Ace)
    H1ghLander72: shows [5h 5c] (a pair of Fives)
    H1ghLander72 collected 9045 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 9045 | Rake 0
    Board [4h 9h Kh 8s Qc]
    Seat 1: pantherman50 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: c_rev2 (big blind) showed [Ac Jh] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 3: deonvda folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: etobman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: FpU_Darkstar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: sockpuppet23 folded before Flop
    Seat 7: ChrisCall folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: Guddal folded before Flop
    Seat 9: H1ghLander72 (button) showed [5h 5c] and won (9045) with a pair of Fives
  2. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Dec 2nd, 2007 (12/2/2007 1:08pm) in reply to c_rev

    You're a slight favorite with your FD and overs and BD STR8 draw.

    But you said: they really don't pay attention to anyone but themselves.

    You might think you were semi-bluffing.<span> But against a calling station, you are just bluffing. You double up if you get there. When you have nothing and bluff, you must make a hand to win, otherwise you loose.

    Nothing spectacular about this situation. You have a narrow edge, but you miss.

    <span><span>That's just poker. </span></span><span><span>No name calling from me.

    </span></span></span> Hold'em Simulation
    <span>990 trials (Exhaustive)</span>
    board: 4h9hKh
    <table border="1" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th>Hand</th><th>Pot equity</th><th>Wins</th><th>Ties</th></tr><tr><td>5h5c</td><td>49.29%</td><td>488</td><td>0</td></tr><tr><td>AcJh</td><td>50.71%</td><td>502</td><td>0</td></tr></tbody></table>
  3. King Acehole King Acehole is offline

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    Dec 2nd, 2007 (12/2/2007 1:15pm) in reply to c_rev

    As long as you are going all-in on any flop, you are not an idiot, wp.
     
  4. MetalGod MetalGod is offline

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    Dec 2nd, 2007 (12/2/2007 1:23pm) in reply to c_rev

    I'd be inclined to say that he is. You re-raised him preflop and moved in on the suited flop and he still called you down with a pair of 5s...where he might have the best hand, but in all likelihood is still an underdog at that time against a wide range of hands. I agree with whoever said as long as you were willing to shove any flop, this was played fine.
  5. c_rev c_rev is offline

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    Dec 2nd, 2007 (12/2/2007 1:33pm) in reply to King Acehole

    exactly what I was planning to do, I knew if I checked the flop he was shoving no matter what, so I was def. shoving any flop, just didnt expect a call with pct fives, I figured I had the edge but its not a big deal. thanks for all the advice on the hand. much appreciated.
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