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Opinions please on a hand in the 27.50

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  1. fratzner fratzner is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 3:54am)

    200ish left in the 27.50 on stars. Just wanted to see how others would proceed in this hand/spot

    pokerstars Game #59808138164: Tournament #413010935, $25.00+$2.50 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2011/03/25 22:37:46 ET
    Table '413010935 45' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: Humbert H. (30342 in chips)
    Seat 2: fratzner (18105 in chips)
    Seat 3: Redbirds4 (6527 in chips)
    Seat 4: birddog2631 (38165 in chips)
    Seat 5: J0han87 (36092 in chips)
    Seat 6: MARCIN123 (32550 in chips)
    Seat 8: rangerdon1 (8730 in chips)
    Seat 9: HdOfSecurity (11644 in chips)
    Humbert H.: posts the ante 50
    fratzner: posts the ante 50
    Redbirds4: posts the ante 50
    birddog2631: posts the ante 50
    J0han87: posts the ante 50
    MARCIN123: posts the ante 50
    rangerdon1: posts the ante 50
    HdOfSecurity: posts the ante 50
    Redbirds4: posts small blind 300
    birddog2631: posts big blind 600
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to fratzner [Kc Qc]
    J0han87: folds
    MARCIN123: folds
    rangerdon1: folds
    HdOfSecurity: folds
    Humbert H.: folds
    fratzner: raises 950 to 1550
    Redbirds4: folds
    birddog2631: raises 2650 to 4200
    fratzner....
     
  2. tyson219 tyson219 is online now Moderator

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 4:38am) in reply to fratzner

    Not deep enough to flat, so fold or jam. How have you and birddog been playing? This decision is really a read/table dynamic dependent play imo.

    Edit; Didn't realize you were IP. Maybe flatting is okay. Still depends on the interaction between the two of you though. Any additional info will get you better feedback.
    Edited By: tyson219 Mar 26th, 2011 at 04:39 AM
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  3. ctillisc ctillisc is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 7:45am) in reply to tyson219

    fold and wait for a better spot; you arent deep enough to flat and play post flop
    Edited By: ctillisc Mar 26th, 2011 at 07:46 AM
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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 7:48am) in reply to ctillisc

    i fold here too....too often am i just crushed.he shows up with AA KK AK AQ and then all the other pairs
  5. bankrollme87 bankrollme87 is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 9:58am) in reply to Dissident

    can't imagine a jam can be too horrid, you're hand plays decent post flop, with this being said I would fold, maybe raise a little less pre flop also
     
  6. mcandrews3rd mcandrews3rd is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 11:51am) in reply to bankrollme87

    if you have been active, an he is 3 bettin a fair bit then easy jam an ul take it down pre so often

    otherwise fold
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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 12:20pm) in reply to mcandrews3rd

    it depends on your/his img and the history. against some players a 4b shove is fine, against some others, if they resteal only with a tight range ecc you have to fold (lol great advice by me)
  8. bonflizubi bonflizubi is offline

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 3:39pm) in reply to mcandrews3rd

     
    Originally Posted by mcandrews3rd View Post

    if you have been active, an he is 3 bettin a fair bit then easy jam an ul take it down pre so often

    otherwise fold

    agree. If he has been 3b'ing you or other LP players a lot im shipping. Otherwise prob folding 90% calling only once in a great while
     
  9. dgillis dgillis is offline Moderator

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    Mar 26th, 2011 (3/26/2011 6:43pm) in reply to bonflizubi

    I would fold, too many combo's that have you beat. Difficult to play post, you really have no idea where you are if he leads.
     
  10. fratzner fratzner is offline

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    Mar 29th, 2011 (3/29/2011 2:51pm) in reply to bankrollme87

     
    Originally Posted by bankrollme87 View Post

    can't imagine a jam can be too horrid, you're hand plays decent post flop, with this being said I would fold, maybe raise a little less pre flop also

    This is what happened.. He has JJ, and I lose race. I am surprised at all the people saying to fold...

    My reasoning, we are 38 ish from the money, I am on the button and could be raising pretty much anything. He has 2x my stack in the bb, I feel he is pretty capable and knows the situation. Flatting is never happening here with KQcc even though it's in position. I feel a shove gets him to fold a large amount of the hands he could be 3b me with here, Ax where X<10. Kx, small pairs, etc.

    I guess I tend to play these type of spots more aggressively in these tournaments. I could be wrong, and I should have realized I don't race too well.

    EDIT: a good player probably is never 3b folding with a pair in this spot. So forget I said that.
    Edited By: fratzner Mar 29th, 2011 at 02:51 PM
     
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