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Optimal line - shove flop w nuts or slow play?

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  1. jaykay24 jaykay24 is offline

    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    United States

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    Oct 1st, 2009 (10/1/2009 1:01pm)

    Did I give Villain a chance to get away? or is it bad to c/c flop, c/j turn? Brand new to this level. Thx for any thoughts.

    Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
    The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

    jaystoy (BTN): $26.86
    Hero (SB): $89.44
    Chipaholic23 (BB): $28.00
    FBKpoppi (UTG): $48.90
    utgdevo (UTG+1): $104.40
    squire123 (UTG+2): $32.21
    The Fools Reign (MP1): $76.22
    Jonny the Saint (MP2): $17.50
    bigL1980 (CO): $12.50

    bigL1980 posts a big blind ($0.25)

    Jonny the Saint posts a big blind ($0.25)

    Pre Flop: ($0.85) Hero is SB with 6c 6d
    3 folds, The Fools Reign raises to $1, 1 fold, bigL1980 calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90, 1 fold

    Flop: ($3.50) 6h 2c 2d (3 players)

    Hero checks, The Fools Reign bets $2.50, bigL1980 raises to $5, Hero calls $5, The Fools Reign raises to $16, bigL1980 calls $6.50 all in, Hero raises to $88.44 all in, The Fools Reign calls $59.22 all in

    Turn: ($165.44) 7h (3 players - 3 are all in)

    River: ($165.44) 5c (3 players - 3 are all in)

    Final Pot: $165.44
    Hero shows 6c 6d (a full house, Sixes full of Twos)
    The Fools Reign shows Kh Kd (two pair, Kings and Twos)
    bigL1980 shows Jc Jd (two pair, Jacks and Twos)
    Hero wins $126.34
    Hero wins $36.10
    (Rake: $3.00)
  2. NCSUBODOG NCSUBODOG is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2009 (10/1/2009 1:04pm) in reply to jaykay24

    NOT THE NUTZ
  3. jaykay24 jaykay24 is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2009 (10/1/2009 8:39pm) in reply to NCSUBODOG

    Looking for at least one helpful response here. I want to bloat the pot, so do ppl like a c/r better than c/j? Or would you guys let a card peel?
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  4. jzalewski12 jzalewski12 is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2009 (10/1/2009 11:19pm) in reply to jaykay24

    Just look at it this way, you got what you wanted. If you let another card peel, is that going to keep you from getting your money in on the turn anyways? If a K spiked on the turn, would you muck your boat? Either way works-- as long as you get the $$ in the middle, which you did.
  5. leftygrove leftygrove is offline

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    Oct 1st, 2009 (10/1/2009 11:38pm) in reply to jaykay24

    I prefer flatting his raise to 16 after the flop, because you should never really be shoving less than trip two's there, and he might fold high overpairs...

    But if he's calling off a ridiculous amount of big blinds with KK there, then yeah, shove the flop so that scare cards don't come off and kill your action.
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