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  1. Randomizer Randomizer is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 10:27am)

    Not sure if this has been discussed already but it seems quite common these days for people to make huge overbets on the river, sometimes on a bluff, occasionally with the nuts. I'm assuming they are trying to take a play out of Durrr's playbook. Just curious to others thoughts about this.
     
  2. gamble153 gamble153 is offline

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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 10:30am) in reply to Randomizer

    why does durrrr get the credit for this?
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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 10:31am) in reply to gamble153

    Whenever I call they have it. When I fold they show the bluff
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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 10:32am) in reply to Randomizer

    do this if you know the player's tendencies
     
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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 10:37am) in reply to gamble153

     
    Originally Posted by gamble153 View Post

    why does durrrr get the credit for this?

    Because everybody makes such a big deal out of his big bluffs/big value bets. Is there someone else you've seen doing this on tv?
     
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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 10:37am) in reply to Anywayz_

     
    Originally Posted by Anywayz_ View Post

    Whenever I call they have it. When I fold they show the bluff

    you speak the truth
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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 11:13am) in reply to Randomizer

     
    Originally Posted by Randomizer View Post

     
    Originally Posted by gamble153 View Post

    why does durrrr get the credit for this?

    Because everybody makes such a big deal out of his big bluffs/big value bets. Is there someone else you've seen doing this on tv?

    Brad Booth?
     
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    Feb 13th, 2010 (2/13/2010 11:17am) in reply to Anywayz_

     
    Originally Posted by Anywayz_ View Post

    Whenever I call they have it. When I fold they show the bluff

     
  9. banikane banikane is offline

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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 12:12am) in reply to DBo Fo Sho

    and how
  10. JON STAMOZ JON STAMOZ is offline

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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 12:26am) in reply to Randomizer

    from my personal experiance

    If they do it on the flop or turn that have a weakish hand they want to protect or they're on a pure bluff

    If they do it on the river they have the nuts and want it it look like a steal so you'll call.
  11. Blu SeVenZ Blu SeVenZ is offline

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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 3:00am) in reply to gamble153

     
    Originally Posted by gamble153 View Post

    why does durrrr get the credit for this?

    Prahlad Friedman was the first I knew of doing this on the regular, and this was many a years ago probly b4 durrrrrr even knew what NLH was..
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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 7:38am) in reply to JON STAMOZ

     
    Originally Posted by JON STAMOZ View Post

    from my personal experiance

    If they do it on the flop or turn that have a weakish hand they want to protect or they're on a pure bluff

    If they do it on the river they have the nuts and want it it look like a steal so you'll call.

    I see it the same....
     
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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 10:43am) in reply to FGEasiest

    I've seen this consistently for years. There are so many different versions of this play, that it's difficult to say who started it. I'm guessing that some players like Puggy Pearson, Stu Ungar, or Johnny Moss were making this play when Dwan wasn't even a thought.

    I've seen many players online make this move after checking both the flop and the turn...this is WAY too obvious. Most of those situations involve where the player has flopped the nuts, and is trapping. Yet, I've seen a few players at higher limits make this same play as a bluff using the whole, "he thinks that I think that he thinks scenario."
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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 11:07am) in reply to JPedigo

     
    Originally Posted by JPedigo View Post

    I've seen this consistently for years. There are so many different versions of this play, that it's difficult to say who started it. I'm guessing that some players like Puggy Pearson, Stu Ungar, or Johnny Moss were making this play when Dwan wasn't even a thought.

    I've seen many players online make this move after checking both the flop and the turn...this is WAY too obvious. Most of those situations involve where the player has flopped the nuts, and is trapping. Yet, I've seen a few players at higher limits make this same play as a bluff using the whole, "he thinks that I think that he thinks scenario."

    Didn't Doyle call down Johnny Moss with J-hi after Johnny bet like $5k into a $1k pot or something on the riv back in the 60s?
     
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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 11:41am) in reply to JoeDeertay

     
    Originally Posted by JoeDeertay View Post

    Didn't Doyle call down Johnny Moss with J-hi after Johnny bet like $5k into a $1k pot or something on the riv back in the 60s?

    I think I may have heard something like that, but not sure. Either way...with the volume of poker that's been played over the years I doubt any "move" is original these days.
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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 11:47am) in reply to JPedigo

     
    Originally Posted by JPedigo View Post

    I think I may have heard something like that, but not sure. Either way...with the volume of poker that's been played over the years I doubt any "move" is original these days.

    Don't quote me on this, but pretty sure it was with Q10 and moss had j10, flop was 8 9 king and the board bricked out. Moss overbet the river and Doyle called him with just the queen high, saying the only possible hand that moss could have had was j10.
     
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    Feb 15th, 2010 (2/15/2010 12:16pm) in reply to JokersOnYou

     
    Originally Posted by JokersOnYou View Post

    Don't quote me on this, but pretty sure it was with Q10 and moss had j10, flop was 8 9 king and the board bricked out. Moss overbet the river and Doyle called him with just the queen high, saying the only possible hand that moss could have had was j10.

    No someone lead out on a K 7 8 board, both Moss and Doyle called. The turn and river blanked and Moss made a big overbet on the river with 9,10 after it had been checked down to the river, and Doyle called with J10.
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