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PL omaha - Play differently?

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  1. lombardo lombardo is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2006 (2/21/2006 2:06pm)

    Could I have played this hand any differently to get this guy to fold his K high flush? I thought it was a good time to semibluff seeing as though I have the ace and I have a ton of outs for a fullhouse.

    Hand #212626966 at table: Table OH 17
    Started: Tue Feb 21 14:02:04 2006

    lombardo is at seat 1 with 103.20
    AKQJ1O is at seat 2 with 48.00
    BbaogG is at seat 3 with 42.80
    Unge21 is at seat 4 with 172.00
    logopedian is at seat 5 with 100.00
    jc_jc is at seat 6 with 39.00
    72oRules is at seat 7 with 0.00
    bertl337 is at seat 8 with 295.00
    brue33 is at seat 9 with 99.34
    ASESOR is at seat 10 with 199.49

    AKQJ1O posts the large blind 1.00
    lombardo posts the small blind 0.50

    lombardo: Js, 4d, Ac, 2h
    AKQJ1O: --, --, --, --
    BbaogG: --, --, --, --
    Unge21: --, --, --, --
    logopedian: --, --, --, --
    jc_jc: --, --, --, --
    bertl337: --, --, --, --
    brue33: --, --, --, --
    ASESOR: --, --, --, --

    Pre-flop:

    BbaogG: Call 1.00
    Unge21: Call 1.00
    logopedian: Fold
    jc_jc: Call 1.00
    bertl337: Call 1.00
    brue33: Fold
    ASESOR: Call 1.00
    lombardo: Call 1.00
    AKQJ1O: Check

    Flop (Board: Qc, Jc, 2c):

    lombardo: Check
    AKQJ1O: Check
    BbaogG: Check
    Unge21: Check
    jc_jc: Bet 1.00
    bertl337: Fold
    ASESOR: Fold
    lombardo: Call 1.00
    AKQJ1O: Fold
    BbaogG: Call 1.00
    Unge21: Call 1.00

    Turn (Board: Qc, Jc, 2c, 4h):

    lombardo: Check
    BbaogG: Check
    Unge21: Check
    jc_jc: Bet 5.00
    lombardo: Raise 26.00
    BbaogG: Fold
    Unge21: Fold
    jc_jc: Call 26.00

    River (Board: Qc, Jc, 2c, 4h, 6c):

    lombardo: Check
    jc_jc: Check

    Showdown:

    lombardo shows: Js, 4d, Ac, 2h (two pair, Jacks and Fours)
    jc_jc shows: Kc, 8d, 10c, 7d (King high flush)

    Mainpot:
    jc_jc wins the pot of 60.00 with King high flush

    (3.00 rake were taken for this hand)
  2. seal seal is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2006 (2/21/2006 2:57pm) in reply to lombardo

    yes.

    Two things.

    First - don't even call pre-flop. You have crap.

    Second - if you made a mistake and called pre-flop,
    fold after the flop. You still have crap.

    Sorry about the bluntness of my reply but it needed to be said.
  3. xcalibur1120 xcalibur1120 is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2006 (2/21/2006 4:14pm) in reply to lombardo

    Correct, you have crap so fold it preflop and again on the turn. Plus, he's got position on ya, and three, he's a weak player (not betting his fllush on the river after you check to him) so I don't think you could pry a K-high flush draw from his cold dead hand.
  4. JoeChicago JoeChicago is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2006 (2/21/2006 4:49pm) in reply to xcalibur1120

    If you have the ace with the board showing a flush draw, you should of check raised the flop - then bet the full pot on the turn - then bet the full pot on the river.

    It works better at higher limit tables where the competition is better and the limits are higher.

    That's the great thing about having aces. Even if you don't have the flush, your opponent is worried big time and will fold.
  5. lombardo lombardo is offline

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    Feb 21st, 2006 (2/21/2006 8:00pm) in reply to JoeChicago

    I think I was small blind in this hand.
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  6. seal seal is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2006 (2/22/2006 4:57am) in reply to lombardo

    funny how a fifty cent call can sometimes cost you a lot more.
  7. LongBall42 LongBall42 is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2006 (2/22/2006 5:22am) in reply to lombardo

    Yeah, with the SB you need to generally take the approach of "If I'm on the button, do I play this hand?". If it's a crap hand, you can get trapped and pot stuck and lose a ton of money. Better off saving yourself a tough decision. PLO is such an unusual game online because it still requires being able to understand the read of your opponent which makes marginal hands even more tougher to play.
  8. lombardo lombardo is offline

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    Feb 22nd, 2006 (2/22/2006 7:39am) in reply to LongBall42

    Basically, I gotta let some of my cajones go and tighten the F up I guess.
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