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As played is the river a check, bet/call, or bet/fold?

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  1. Pokfayce Pokfayce is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2011 (3/24/2011 5:52am)

    Guy is a 26/19 over 1500 hands
    My instinct told me to check, but greed got me to bet. My thinking for checking is that there isn't much that he can call a bet with that I beat and if I bet and get raised it's hard to fathom a hand I can beat.

    pokerstars Game #59702709487: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25 USD) - 2011/03/23 21:43:03 PT [2011/03/24 0:43:03 ET]
    Table 'Pia IV' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: sdsuchris23 ($23.20 in chips)
    Seat 2: DidYouSeeWHy ($92.56 in chips)
    Seat 3: Chief42 ($54.21 in chips)
    Seat 4: Serenity9 ($77.64 in chips)
    Seat 5: PoKfaYce ($62.50 in chips)
    Seat 6: KISSERFISH ($62.02 in chips)
    Seat 7: Hawkish13 ($47.60 in chips)
    Seat 8: cross-peen ($25.05 in chips)
    KISSERFISH: posts small blind $0.10
    Hawkish13: posts big blind $0.25
    charleymrphy: sits out
    sdsuchris23: posts the ante $0.05
    DidYouSeeWHy: posts the ante $0.05
    Chief42: posts the ante $0.05
    Serenity9: posts the ante $0.05
    PoKfaYce: posts the ante $0.05
    KISSERFISH: posts the ante $0.05
    Hawkish13: posts the ante $0.05
    cross-peen: posts the ante $0.05
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to PoKfaYce [9s Js]
    cross-peen: folds
    sdsuchris23: calls $0.25
    DidYouSeeWHy: raises $0.75 to $1
    Chief42: calls $1
    Serenity9: folds
    PoKfaYce: calls $1
    KISSERFISH: folds
    Hawkish13: calls $0.75
    sdsuchris23: calls $0.75
    *** FLOP *** [Tc 4s Ts]
    Hawkish13: checks
    sdsuchris23: checks
    DidYouSeeWHy: bets $2.50
    Chief42: folds
    PoKfaYce: calls $2.50
    Hawkish13: folds
    sdsuchris23: folds
    *** TURN *** [Tc 4s Ts] [Ks]
    DidYouSeeWHy: bets $7.77
    PoKfaYce: calls $7.77
    *** RIVER *** [Tc 4s Ts Ks] [Qd]
    DidYouSeeWHy: checks
    PoKfaYce: bets $12
    DidYouSeeWHy: raises $44 to $56
    PoKfaYce: folds
    Uncalled bet ($44) returned to DidYouSeeWHy
    DidYouSeeWHy collected $48.04 from pot
    DidYouSeeWHy: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $50.04 | Rake $2
    Board [Tc 4s Ts Ks Qd]
    Seat 1: sdsuchris23 folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: DidYouSeeWHy collected ($48.04)
    Seat 3: Chief42 folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: Serenity9 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: PoKfaYce (button) folded on the River
    Seat 6: KISSERFISH (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 7: Hawkish13 (big blind) folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: cross-peen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. Sagacious Man Sagacious Man is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2011 (3/24/2011 6:47am) in reply to Pokfayce

    Your instinct said check so you should check.

    Definately looks like a bet / fold spot though.
  3. tom44411 tom44411 is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2011 (3/24/2011 7:06am) in reply to Sagacious Man

    i mean tbh i prob bet/call. his line seems pretty ridic. like i dont see him barreling QQ esp after you called flop in a multi way pot unless he has Qs in his hand even then its prob not a barreling turn. flush is a possibility but you do have 2 spades in your hand so that limits his flush possibilties and assuming hed raise the nuts he as to have exactly AQs, and not even sure if hed raise that much with this board texture with a flush, realisticly he can have 44 KK KT or QT and take this line, i mean based on how much hes opening alone id prob bet call but not be too thrilled about it
    Edited By: tom44411 Mar 24th, 2011 at 08:21 AM
     
  4. Pokfayce Pokfayce is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2011 (3/24/2011 7:16am) in reply to tom44411

    I wasn't check calling, I was calling and then was checked to on the river.
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  5. Talewine09 Talewine09 is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2011 (3/24/2011 8:05am) in reply to Pokfayce

    why'd you take this line? just curious

    I think I would bet this river many times in the past, but recently I've checked here thinking I've made the better hand but get called by better hands when I bet. I believe it's expected value? could be using it in the wrong situation. but as played fold

    Your really only getting value from AT/JT or so maybe KQ? just check
  6. mcandrews3rd mcandrews3rd is offline

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    Mar 24th, 2011 (3/24/2011 2:40pm) in reply to Talewine09

    i like bet/fold on river as you will get called by worse

    really doubt sum 25nl guy is check raise bluffin this river very often, doubt he raises a flush here either, mayb hes overplayin a 10 but really unlikely, for me its a house or some weird bluff which i dont think he makes often enough for this to be a call
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