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  1. DJCBoston DJCBoston is offline

    Lowell, MA
    United States

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    Oct 4th, 2006 (10/4/2006 10:56pm)

    I don't know what it is but I can't seem to make a play...ever anymore. Everytime I raise pf I get popped allin or smooth called and they push on flop no matter what. I raise (3-5x)w a hand like AQ and and haven't even played a hand in about 40 min and I get 6 fkn callers! I just can't seem to do anything. I raise w 10's from ep and get 4 callers...flop 2 overs and I'm done w/ the hand obviously. Raise w KK...flop an ace inevitably and these twats are pushing allin. I mean, you're at 15-30 and they're pushing allin for 1400 with 200 in the pot. I can't call. It seems the only way to get chips is to get aces allin pf, get lucky or once in a while have a hand actually hold up.

    I'm starting to feel like it's not poker it's push and pray. Bunch of rabid animals. Take this hand from the Dise Turquoise tourney...5 min in I get dealt 10-10 in mid pos and raise to 80. 1 caller, 2 callers, 3 callers...then raise allin. I fold considering the blinds are 10-20...he gets 2 callers...99 and q-10 vs his qq. qq held but that's not my point. How the fuck can you play poker when levels don't mean anything to anyone? 40k earlier...100-200 I have 16k in chips and get 44 in BB. UTG min raises, about 6 callers. Flop was 479 rainbow. I lead out for 1500 and get popped by UTG fish to 5k. Everyone folds and I push for the rest figuring if he has me oversetted oh well and if he has aa I think he has 1 out at best w/ the # of callers. He instacalls another 9k or sow KQ clubs and runner runners a flush! WTF? Not worried about the bad beat because I know how big a fave I was and "usually" they won't win those but this is the new breed of poker player?

    I signed up for PXF and other than Sheets SNG's and Rizen and BR's guest vids I haven't really seen anything informative about todays players. How the hell can you even get in a pot early on and gain chips without waiting for aces? I mean, does Bax just get AA every 5-6 hands and chip up? I doubt it. Does Belowabove get his KK paid off everytime?

    I moved up to the stars $162 for a week or so and saw the same ridiculous play. Raise after not seeing a flop for the 1st 35 hands w/ KK...2 callers, flop q87, pot sized bet, raised, I push, he tables a7 and spikes a 7 on river. Yeah, unlucky...

    So my question is this: How are you supposed to raise enough to weed out the retards, yet get value for your hands? I can't figure out how to do it anymore.
  2. jay_shark jay_shark is offline

    NY
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    Oct 4th, 2006 (10/4/2006 11:13pm) in reply to DJCBoston

    If your table is that aggressive and loose , then you should consider limp re-raising more often . Occasionally you should even limp and then push all in to a raise behind you with your premium hands . You may get some loose calls from the donkeys .
  3. lordxixor101 lordxixor101 is offline

    Westland, MI
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    Oct 5th, 2006 (10/5/2006 11:34am) in reply to DJCBoston

    Hmmmm,

    You seem to be asking how to play them, but you seem to be playing them right. You want these calls. You want the A-7 to call, you want the K-Q clubs to call.

    Also, why do you want to "weed" out these "retards"? I think your really just giving a bad beat story here.

    It does get fusterating to make the right call, and get burned. But, it does even out. Plus, the story you gave, you folded right with the 10-10, so you got what you wanted.

    MTT's are tough because, you are going to get a bad beat almost every time you play. You have to try and build up a stack early, so you can take that bad beat when one of these happen.

    So, honestly, look at your stories, what are you asking for? If you want people to stop making bad calls, you need to stop playing. First, people will always make bad calls, and sometimes they will suck out on you. Secondly, without these bad calls, how do you want to win? If you think it's hard beating the fish, try beating someone who only makes the right calls?

    But, my guess is that your just fusterated. It happens, nothing you can do. Might be good to take a day off or 2, and just get back to the point where, your happy if you make the right calls.
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