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please explain this play to me.

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  1. hayisforhorses hayisforhorses is offline

    Lake Oswego, OR
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    Feb 22nd, 2007 (2/22/2007 1:06am)

    Just watching the last 5 tables of wed 300 on stars and this hand came up.

    is the play in this hand as atrocious as it looks? or am I just a donk?

    pokerstars Game #8562566314: Tournament #42680519, $300+$20 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (750/1500) - 2007/02/22 - 02:03:20 (ET)
    Table '42680519 17' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
    Seat 1: irish73 (88936 in chips)
    Seat 2: yellowsub86 (125495 in chips)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (78716 in chips)
    Seat 5: magicrat35 (81788 in chips)
    Seat 6: PaNdaY (72047 in chips)
    Seat 7: dstich (21227 in chips)
    Seat 8: gank (55446 in chips)
    Seat 9: ViP_MoDee (34712 in chips)
    irish73: posts the ante 75
    yellowsub86: posts the ante 75
    vietcong01: posts the ante 75
    magicrat35: posts the ante 75
    PaNdaY: posts the ante 75
    dstich: posts the ante 75
    gank: posts the ante 75
    ViP_MoDee: posts the ante 75
    vietcong01: posts small blind 750
    magicrat35: posts big blind 1500
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    PaNdaY: raises 2500 to 4000
    dstich: folds
    gank: folds
    ViP_MoDee: folds
    irish73: folds
    yellowsub86: folds
    vietcong01: folds
    magicrat35: raises 8500 to 12500
    PaNdaY: raises 59472 to 71972 and is all-in
    magicrat35: calls 59472
    *** FLOP *** [4s 2c 5d]
    *** TURN *** [4s 2c 5d] [Qh]
    *** RIVER *** [4s 2c 5d Qh] [9s]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    magicrat35: shows [Ad Qd] (a pair of Queens)
    PaNdaY: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
    PaNdaY collected 145294 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 145294 | Rake 0
    Board [4s 2c 5d Qh 9s]
    Seat 1: irish73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: yellowsub86 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: vietcong01 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: magicrat35 (big blind) showed [Ad Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens
    Seat 6: PaNdaY showed [As Ah] and won (145294) with a pair of Aces
    Seat 7: dstich folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: gank folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: ViP_MoDee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. AFink93 AFink93 is offline

    Norwich, CT
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    Feb 22nd, 2007 (2/22/2007 1:10am) in reply to hayisforhorses

    Suited Cards PWN Obv.. I dont know. I guess magic doesnt respect UTG raise.
  3. NYRocketMan NYRocketMan is offline

    Lombard, IL
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    Feb 22nd, 2007 (2/22/2007 1:34am) in reply to hayisforhorses

    Horrific call. Absolutely horrid.

    He askes for information by re-raising an UTG raiser who raises juuuuuuuust a snark. The information he gets is that the UTG short-raiser thinks enough of his hand to move in against magicrat35's re-raise. magicrat35 then proceeds to donk off most of his chips by calling in a situation he can really only be dominated in.

    I believe that the very best magicrat35 could have hoped for when he called in that spot was 3 live outs.

    Just awful poker, and it's easy to see why he's such a loser.

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