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  1. LetsGetDrunk LetsGetDrunk is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2008 (8/6/2008 7:04pm)

    pokerstars Game #19414822342: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/08/06 - 19:00:16 (ET)
    Table 'Montana' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: MA$$HOLE ($441.05 in chips)
    Seat 2: scorpionfish ($396 in chips)
    Seat 3: sammyg11 ($1274.40 in chips)
    Seat 4: bluffblocker ($400 in chips)
    Seat 5: Iberico ($590 in chips)
    Seat 6: zaksovas ($424.75 in chips)
    Seat 7: Belok ($427 in chips)
    Seat 8: lamf2 ($240 in chips)
    Seat 9: TwoTone102 ($400 in chips)
    Belok: posts small blind $2
    lamf2: posts big blind $4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    TwoTone102: folds
    MA$$HOLE: folds
    scorpionfish: folds
    sammyg11: raises $8 to $12
    bluffblocker: folds
    Iberico: folds
    zaksovas: raises $20 to $32
    Belok: folds
    lamf2: folds
    sammyg11: raises $60 to $92
    zaksovas: raises $332.75 to $424.75 and is all-in
    sammyg11: calls $332.75
    *** FLOP *** [Td 4d 9h]
    *** TURN *** [Td 4d 9h] [3c]
    *** RIVER *** [Td 4d 9h 3c] [Jd]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    sammyg11: shows [As Kc] (high card Ace)
    zaksovas: shows [Kd Kh] (a pair of Kings)
    zaksovas collected $852.50 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $855.50 | Rake $3
    Board [Td 4d 9h 3c Jd]
    Seat 1: MA$$HOLE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: scorpionfish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: sammyg11 showed [As Kc] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 4: bluffblocker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Iberico folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: zaksovas (button) showed [Kd Kh] and won ($852.50) with a pair of Kings
    Seat 7: Belok (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: lamf2 (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: TwoTone102 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

    The ak call was pretty bad eh? i mean i just dont like it but lets see what you guys say

    also what do you guys think about this laydown
    PokerStars Game #19414455717: Hold'em No Limit ($2/$4) - 2008/08/06 - 18:42:42 (ET)
    Table 'Triglav III' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: Belok ($836.15 in chips)
    Seat 3: imthechasman ($520.70 in chips)
    Seat 4: Iberico ($478 in chips)
    Seat 5: Valdemarsson ($392 in chips)
    Seat 7: 32rrew ($435 in chips)
    Seat 8: BinaryFinary ($626.50 in chips)
    Seat 9: sammyg11 ($466.60 in chips)
    BinaryFinary: posts small blind $2
    sammyg11: posts big blind $4
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to sammyg11 [8h Jh]
    Belok: folds
    imthechasman: folds
    DK-ACE-DK leaves the table
    jmoney7807 leaves the table
    Iberico: folds
    Valdemarsson: calls $4
    32rrew: folds
    saskowill2k joins the table at seat #2
    sammyg11 said, "nh"
    BinaryFinary: folds
    sammyg11: checks
    *** FLOP *** [2s Qh Th]
    sammyg11: bets $8
    Valdemarsson: calls $8
    *** TURN *** [2s Qh Th] [5d]
    sammyg11: bets $24
    Valdemarsson: calls $24
    *** RIVER *** [2s Qh Th 5d] [9c]
    sammyg11: bets $64
    Softtail 105 joins the table at seat #6
    Valdemarsson: raises $292 to $356 and is all-in
    sammyg11 said, "uggghh"
    sammyg11 said, "u show KJ?"
    sammyg11: folds
    Uncalled bet ($292) returned to Valdemarsson
    Valdemarsson collected $199 from pot
    Valdemarsson: doesn't show hand
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $202 | Rake $3
    Board [2s Qh Th 5d 9c]
    Seat 1: Belok folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: imthechasman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: Iberico folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Valdemarsson collected ($199)
    Seat 7: 32rrew (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: BinaryFinary (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: sammyg11 (big blind) folded on the Rive

    these are all with few reads if any at all.
  2. sotti sotti is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2008 (8/6/2008 7:49pm) in reply to LetsGetDrunk

    spewy call for sure.

    I'm not sure about the fold, in the .10c/.25c world I live in that's a horrible fold as people will reraise there with two pair or a flopped set after calling you down and not seeing the flush come in (or making the 2pr on the river).

    These are bad players that make these raises, but I don't know if they exist at the 2/4 level.
  3. djkelly69 djkelly69 is offline

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    Aug 6th, 2008 (8/6/2008 11:50pm) in reply to LetsGetDrunk

    1st hand, do you have a read that he 3bets or 5 bet shoves light? If he 3bets light and you have been aggressive, I dont mind the 4 bet because he could just be defending his button, but I just cant see us being any better than the wrong side of a flip here at the very best after the 5bet shove.

    2nd hand i check call river to let him bluff missed draws or bet TP type hands. As played I think you have to call, as your line looks more like TP or 2pair and is totally disguised.
  4. pkalevar pkalevar is offline

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    Aug 7th, 2008 (8/7/2008 9:38am) in reply to djkelly69

    second hand: I don't think you can fold 2nd nuts unless you have a real solid read on your opponent and knows he would only do this with the nuts... i don't see this guy calling 24 on the turn too often with just KJ... especially when there is a flush draw out. I think hes definitely making a move here.

    First hand: is read dependent, as obviouly playing AK out of position and not being the aggressor is unfavourable. You have to know what he 3-bets and 5-bet shoves with... though i think at the point of his 5-bet, his range is AK QQ+, maybe JJ putting your AK enough behind his range... meaning you should fold despite your current investment in the pot.

    Note: (however, i'm a 1/2 player, lost 2.5grand when i moved up to 2/4 and am now back to my safe 1/2 play until i meet my summer earnings goal :P)
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