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Please Tell My Why I Suck Deep in Tournies or Just played a hand bad (and know it ) But wanna hear how you would play it.

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  1. SmokinPurple SmokinPurple is offline

    Oakland, CA
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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 4:45am)

    Ok folks its on P stars $ 11 900 ppl 1st is 1500 Im in 5th or 6th in chips with 15 left. I had been leakin like 60 or 70 k previous round so had dropped from a top 3 stack.

    Then my final hand came up and think i played it awful even though if I had differently it may have been the same result (all in coinflip).

    I responded to this post from a dude that wanted railers. he still in but here is the hand history and my comments at the end
    tell me what you would have done differently

    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD><H4 class=P5_PostHeader> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=center><TD vAlign=top align=left rowSpan=2> </TD><TD align=left colSpan=2><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>Re:Need some Rail in the $11 7k 6max </TD><TD vAlign=center align=right>In reply to </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD align=left>By SmokinPurple on 06-02-2009 3:22 AM </TD><TD align=right>Reply Quote Delete Edit </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></H4> <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=top><TD class=P5_PostContent><TABLE height="100%" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=ForumPostContentText>I think You out lasted me I went out 15th any way there is no way i shouldna finished in top 7 at least with my stack ( Just lost 60k 3 hands ago)but played a hand (my last) wrong 3 different times in my opinion. heres the history:

    rStars Game #28895006927: Tournament #168052379, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (1500/3000) - 2009/06/02 0:53:43 PT [2009/06/02 3:53:43 ET]
    Table '168052379 125' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 2: SmokinPurple (195046 in chips)
    Seat 3: jb-cowboy (244131 in chips)
    Seat 4: bostero27 (293484 in chips)
    Seat 5: phsquared (139564 in chips)
    Seat 6: troy420x2 (122672 in chips)
    SmokinPurple: posts the ante 300
    jb-cowboy: posts the ante 300
    bostero27: posts the ante 300
    phsquared: posts the ante 300
    troy420x2: posts the ante 300
    troy420x2: posts small blind 1500
    SmokinPurple: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to SmokinPurple [Js Jh]
    jb-cowboy: raises 9000 to 12000
    bostero27: folds
    phsquared: folds
    troy420x2: folds
    SmokinPurple: calls 9000
    *** FLOP *** [9s 5d 4c]
    SmokinPurple: checks
    jb-cowboy: bets 21000
    SmokinPurple: raises 24000 to 45000
    jb-cowboy: calls 24000
    *** TURN *** [9s 5d 4c] [Kh]
    SmokinPurple: checks
    jb-cowboy: bets 186831 and is all-in
    SmokinPurple: calls 137746 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (49085) returned to jb-cowboy
    *** RIVER *** [9s 5d 4c Kh] [Kc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    SmokinPurple: shows [Js Jh] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
    jb-cowboy: shows [Ah Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
    jb-cowboy collected 392492 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 392492 | Rake 0
    Board [9s 5d 4c Kh Kc]
    Seat 2: SmokinPurple (big blind) showed [Js Jh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Seat 3: jb-cowboy showed [Ah Ks] and won (392492) with three of a kind, Kings
    Seat 4: bostero27 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: phsquared (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: troy420x2 (small blind) folded before Flop

    Im ok with just call pre outta pos to at least 1 over maybe 2 cards . I think reraising this paticular player woulda beena shove coinflip type thing pre so i wanted to see a flop.

    Flop: I checked the flop to the 3 unders to my JJ cuz i knew he would bet and I could check raise, however I dont think I raised big enough or I shoulda just bet out. but my raise was to see if i was up against a bigger pp w just the call knew i was more than likely ahead
    Turn:
    after I checked to the K on the turn , he goes all in ( I feel cuz i showed weakness but it was all about my feel that he didnt have a K cuz he was opening w a wide range. I coulda folded my last 137 still had a top ten stack (9)(30 blinds).

    So in my opinion I played it wrong a few way s.

    How would you all play this hand.
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  2. gamma21 gamma21 is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 4:51am) in reply to SmokinPurple

    3 bet pre, call his 4 bet shove and lose the race.
     
  3. SmokinPurple SmokinPurple is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 4:56am) in reply to SmokinPurple

    And yes I know Im an idiot for not chk raising all in on flop ( cuz if he had an over p I still woulda ended up all in on that board) But I was trying to be to cute or trappy with this paticular player i wanted a bigger pot i got greedy.
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  4. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 7:28am) in reply to SmokinPurple

     
    Originally Posted by SmokinPurple View Post

    And yes I know Im an idiot for not chk raising all in on flop ( cuz if he had an over p I still woulda ended up all in on that board) But I was trying to be to cute or trappy with this paticular player i wanted a bigger pot i got greedy.

    So then you already know the biggest mistake you made in the hand....

    I would absolutely be 3-betting preflop and calling a shove, as was already stated. But the beautiful thing against someone like this is if you 3-bet, he'd likely just call rather than 4-bet shove, then you shove the flop and he folds. Easy game.
     
  5. x walks x x walks x is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 8:37am) in reply to grapsfan

    3bet him to 38k pre call shove

    As played your min raise was bad, id make it more like 58-61k (even a c/r aww een wouldn't be bad) and then get in on any turn

    ul
  6. Boandaro Boandaro is offline

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    Jun 2nd, 2009 (6/2/2009 11:30am) in reply to x walks x

    I am fine with flatting pre or 3 betting. The prob with this stage in the tourney is that the raise pre in this spot is rarely spew. Flatting controls the size of the pot and you certainly can not fold. We are on the final table bubble and I am looking to see a low flop here. I do not like the check raise at all as you really price him in to call. I would shove this flop and protect my hand. If he calls its a bad beat. At this spot in the tourney I am looking to make FT and wait for others to make huge mistakes, not small ones. At the $10 level you will see many mistakes made at the FT but only if you make it that far.
     
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