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PLO cash game... tell me what you woulda done

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  1. superclick22 superclick22 is offline

    Longview, WA
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    Nov 22nd, 2008 (11/22/2008 6:31am)

    Full Tilt Poker Game #9070865060: Table Daisy - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5:23:59 ET - 2008/11/20
    Seat 1: Rxana ($7.65)
    Seat 2: bungka ($36)
    Seat 3: Gauge ($25)
    Seat 4: OctaneGTP ($16.35)
    Seat 5: djmax23 ($83)
    Seat 6: buhula ($25.50)
    Seat 7: RIFFRAFF_MCC ($7.70)
    Seat 8: Matt Sutton ($24.75)
    Seat 9: praisejesus7 ($23.70)
    Matt Sutton posts the small blind of $0.10
    praisejesus7 posts the big blind of $0.25
    The button is in seat #7
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Matt Sutton [7c 9d Jd Qc]
    Rxana calls $0.25
    bungka folds
    Gauge calls $0.25
    OctaneGTP folds
    djmax23 folds
    buhula calls $0.25
    RIFFRAFF_MCC has 15 seconds left to act
    RIFFRAFF_MCC calls $0.25
    Matt Sutton has 15 seconds left to act
    Matt Sutton calls $0.15
    praisejesus7 checks
    *** FLOP *** [As 8c Ts]
    Matt Sutton bets $1.50
    praisejesus7 folds
    Rxana calls $1.50
    Gauge calls $1.50
    buhula raises to $9
    RIFFRAFF_MCC folds
    Matt Sutton has 15 seconds left to act
    Matt Sutton raises to $24.50, and is all in
    Rxana folds
    Gauge adds $1.75
    Gauge folds
    buhula calls $15.50
    Matt Sutton shows [7c 9d Jd Qc]
    buhula shows [5d 8s 9s 8h]
    *** TURN *** [As 8c Ts] [6h]
    *** RIVER *** [As 8c Ts 6h] [6s]
    Matt Sutton shows a straight, Ten high
    buhula shows a full house, Eights full of Sixes
    buhula wins the pot ($50.85) with a full house, Eights full of Sixes
    Matt Sutton is sitting out
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot $53.50 | Rake $2.65
    Board: [As 8c Ts 6h 6s]
    Seat 1: Rxana folded on the Flop
    Seat 2: bungka didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 3: Gauge folded on the Flop
    Seat 4: OctaneGTP didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 5: djmax23 didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 6: buhula showed [5d 8s 9s 8h] and won ($50.85) with a full house, Eights full of Sixes
    Seat 7: RIFFRAFF_MCC (button) folded on the Flop
    Seat 8: Matt Sutton (small blind) showed [7c 9d Jd Qc] and lost with a straight, Ten high
    Seat 9: praisejesus7 (big blind) folded on the Flop
  2. juvie juvie is offline

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    Nov 22nd, 2008 (11/22/2008 8:42pm) in reply to superclick22

    tough pot but i think a standard situation!
  3. superclick22 superclick22 is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2008 (11/23/2008 9:54am) in reply to juvie

    should i have played it differently?
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  4. MYBLUEDOG MYBLUEDOG is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2008 (11/23/2008 10:01am) in reply to superclick22

    No, if you play that flop and that many outs, I'd be AI or close to it. You will not run into a set often enough to justify slow playing. If your str8 gets there, you give the villan a chance to get away.

    That's just poker. You gotta win those flips.
  5. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2008 (11/23/2008 10:07am) in reply to superclick22

    While you can certainly make a play at the pot if you wish with only the wrap (though multi-way you haven't anything,really- no spade draw and most cards in the deck are horrible for you) I don't recommend it with all these opponents; if one player has merely the same wrap as yourself, plus spades, you're buggered. I've seen that particular scenario cost many a player his stack, including some who thought they knew what they were about.

    After the action following your flop bet, you might as well have lit a match to your bankroll as put it all in-only a miracle was going to enable you to win that pot.
  6. debo34 debo34 is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2008 (11/23/2008 2:09pm) in reply to hushpuckena

    What about a check call of $1.50 to see what turn brings?
     
  7. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Nov 23rd, 2008 (11/23/2008 8:31pm) in reply to debo34

     
    Originally Posted by debo34 View Post

    What about a check call of $1.50 to see what turn brings?

    Much as I'm not a fan of checking and calling, it's a clearly better way to set about things than the way the hand actually went. If, after the check, the next player leads and gets some callers, this wrap is still not much of a bargain, despite decent pot odds; as I mentioned above, any spade or card that pairs the board are fatal to your ambitions, since the only redraws in your own hand are to higher straights, and I can tell you from vast experience that it's likely that someone playing with you here has some of the cards you need, which further devalues your hand. This is why, especially in a multi-way pot or where the money is deep, you want more than a mere upstairs wrap. Lacking the extra values, you're going to get into a lot of situations where you don't know where you are in the hand.
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