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Pocket TTs facing 2 allins

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  1. firoo firoo is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 5:49am)

    Here's the situation:

    It's the 3 rebuy , 1200 registered, I'm sitting 50/99 when the following hand takes place.

    First villain that shoves is 14/14 over 21 hands. I'm assuming he's shoving wide and I'm ready to call his ass cuz TT is good against his range/stack size,

    but another villain on button running 33/22 over 9 hands just goes all in. So what's the correct play...I don't have many hands since recently moved to this table so not much info. Average stack at the moment hand took place was 55k, so I was below average but not super desperate.

    Is this a good time to call off with 20 bb with 2 allins to try to triple up ? Is this a snap call or can you fold?

    if one all-in, that's a super easy decision, but was wondering with 2 or more all ins, what's the most optimal play with TT with 20bb?

    Thanks,

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    NL Holdem $2,000(BB) Replayer Game#74777093607

    GavPat9 ($91,031)
    firaserati ($39,990)
    alexis_nano ($55,528)
    jvengrin ($30,482)
    hoplesizzy ($14,405)
    ze piquero5 ($71,925)
    MontyJACKk ($113,572)
    kirgis312 ($213,206)
    I M GOIN OFF ($54,247)

    MontyJACKk antes $200
    kirgis312 antes $200
    I M GOIN OFF antes $200
    GavPat9 antes $200
    firaserati antes $200
    alexis_nano antes $200
    jvengrin antes $200
    hoplesizzy antes $200
    ze piquero5 antes $200

    GavPat9 posts (SB) $1,000
    firaserati posts (BB) $2,000

    Dealt to firaserati Td Ts
    fold,
    jvengrin raises to $30,282 (AI)
    fold, fold, fold, fold,
    I M GOIN OFF raises to $54,047 (AI)
    fold
    firaserati ?????????
  2. norv norv is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 8:02am) in reply to firoo

    i think a fold is fine here, 10bb and im in like flynn, but you can get better spots from here, and you can easily move up the pecking order by good tight aggressive play

    1010 is an average hand, what i mean is it gets better if you can see a flop, but the flop has to hit, so many hands over run you after the 5 cards are down and if you get it allin pre then you can't use your skill to win the pot, it's out of your hands and down to the dealers........kq and kj kill 1010 so many times and against 2 opponents allin pre......i just dont like it
  3. Bisull Bisull is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 11:27am) in reply to norv

    Jvengrin is a very decent reg who is not shoving crap here but I imagine his range here is probably: ATs+, ATo+ KJs+, 55+, KQo...

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 55.654% 55.03% 00.63% 740600904 8430522.00 { TT }
    Hand 1: 44.346% 43.72% 00.63% 588408996 8430522.00 { 55+, ATs+, KJs+, ATo+, KQo }

    So you should call that range pretty easily...

    Isoshoving villain has just less than 30bb's and obv has a hand, IMO calling is kind of meh, "i dont wanna but i have to" type thing... 9 hands dont say much but he's played 3 of them so he is probably active.

    it's just 50/50 here, if you call and win u have a bigstack and can possibly go really deep but if u fold your gonna have to grind and/or get lucky to get there
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  4. firoo firoo is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 4:02pm) in reply to Bisull

    ^^^^^^^^^ excellently worded. This is what was going on in my head. I knew I am calling the first shove 100%. Am just unsure in spots like this where I have approximately 33% equity on a triple up. I mean there are times when it's a clear fold, but there are times I wonder if a call is correct tourney strategy wise.
    Edited By: firoo Jan 31st, 2012 at 04:03 PM
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  5. NarcoCop NarcoCop is offline

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    Jan 31st, 2012 (1/31/2012 8:01pm) in reply to firoo

    The problem here is not hand 1 s range, its hand 2s range that we are more worried about.
    Hand 2 is prob iso shoving with AQo+, 88+. Your a 48/52 dog to hand 2s range. Your calling off 37k to possibly make 87k. You are 35% 3 way with Ur tens. It's a call for me.
    Edited By: NarcoCop Jan 31st, 2012 at 08:02 PM
     
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