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Poker School for pros and regular joes? Best value?

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  1. Weedeater1 Weedeater1 is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 1:26pm)

    I've been looking around for the best training for the best money. I'd rather play than pay for something I can pick up for free, in a book, or just by watching the great ones: Johnny Bax, for example. I think this poker school thing is a fad,peaking soon,and I don't want to waste money for a whole year. Maybe a month, max. Checked out Gank's school, and I ain't too impressed with the staff - never heard of one of them and they look like they're fishing around for more. Who are the other pros? I'm thinking a better way to go is private lessons; one on one and you're done. Fox.net looks pretty good, and I've read some pretty complimentary posts. Gidders looks good. Too bad Fulltilt doesn't have training. Real pros all the time. Any advice?
  2. richie menlo richie menlo is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 1:33pm) in reply to Weedeater1

    Cardrunners.com has a great knowlegeable young staff... the leader Green Plastic has made hundreds of thousands of dollars on UB... and he has great videos....on the site... JSUP.... and Muddywatters are the other guys on the site...check it out..
  3. wowswift wowswift is offline Fold to cash, skeet to win.

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 1:38pm) in reply to Weedeater1

    http://www.wowswiftOWNS.org
  4. RaCeTiMe RaCeTiMe is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 1:41pm) in reply to Weedeater1

    My advice is use Google and type in Brett Jungblut.
  5. Mindub Mindub is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 1:42pm) in reply to Weedeater1

    Pretty harsh on Gank there, prepare to be flamed! lol. You may have a point on the market peaking for poker instruction, but I doubt it. With the WSOP still growing by leaps and bounds, I think online poker has not hit it's peak yet. Todd really took advantage of the multimedia and technology available to the internet poker player to launch a new and exciting project with RPT. Now others are trying to get in on the game, but that doesn't mean that they don't have something valuable to offer.
    If you'd rather "play than pay" then probably a private coach is the way to go, although I think Fox is booked up for private sessions. His site is still available, and a great resource from what I hear.
    Good luck!
  6. BUCKINATOR BUCKINATOR is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 1:51pm) in reply to Mindub

    the market as mentioned on this site may be peaking but, i would take a look around at barnes and noble. You will see that instruction from books is at an all-time high. I like killer poker crushing the online game by vorhaus, I'm currently reading the Lindgren book, and almost everybody reccomends the Harrington on Hold'em both volumes. The above post is right. You should learn more about the people teaching before implying that they may not be that good just because YOU have'nt heard of them. Personally, I would not hesitate to take free lessons from any of the people that post here and also teach, propokerschool, gidders.com, fox, cardrunners, I can't remember nsxt2's. I would really like to go to camp hellmuth or wpt boot camp to improve my live play. Educate before you denigrate, peace out and happy thanksgiving.
  7. Weedeater1 Weedeater1 is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 2:06pm) in reply to BUCKINATOR

    really good advice on the cardrunners, fox B&N instruction, books - not meaning to dis anybody in particular, but do want value for the bucks. not so into self promotion; sites should sell themselves. Too many poker tv shows, even ESPN WSOP ratings down this year, competing poker sites, poker players, poker schools - so many poker players calling themselves pros - but the test isn't the internet so much, as the live tourneys when you have to face the old-school and the newest school and the sat winners. If you can win more than once and take down consistent live tournament cashes (Full Tilt pros) then you have my full attention and maybe my tuition for school or privat lessons. It's one thing to offer something; you just gotta back it up.
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  8. BUCKINATOR BUCKINATOR is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 2:42pm) in reply to Weedeater1

    Some of the pros that post here are exclusively online pros. I don't know why, but some of them choose to stay online rather than make the jump to Live. On the other hand there are alot of pros that post here and play both with great success. My point is that just because a person is a great online player does'nt mean they will be a great live player, some of the great online players however, were already great live players. Individual players have to find out which is more profitable for them. Obviously alot of us that play online can't afford to directly buy-in to a wpt or wsop main event and there is no place with more satellites than online. The schools online usually have at least 1-2 people on their staff that have won or finished high in a big-buy-in($5,000+) event. You really should just read the articles and blogs on here. This site is a mecca of poker information for free as well as offering you the opportunity to ask the pros in a post any specific question you have.
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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 4:10pm) in reply to Weedeater1

    :o)
  10. Azone Azone is offline

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    Nov 25th, 2005 (11/25/2005 6:30pm) in reply to seal

    I believe poker training sites are in their infancy, and what can be developed and how big membership can get has only scratched the surface. 10K to 20k in membership is not unrealistic, maybe even more.

    When a site cost between $10 and $30 a month then it is a steal. That said, it depends on the ongoing quality of the site. Sites give value based on what they offer, and therefore they must always be developing new and innovative product for their clients.

    You learn by play and practice, you can learn by watching others live, and you can learn by a book or websites that have multiple channels of teaching.

    To me, this is just starting and we are just scratching the surface.
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