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  1. Dunce Dunce is offline

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    Apr 7th, 2005 (4/7/2005 10:58pm)

    We all know that televised matches are edited to show what the producers think is what the audience wants to see, but...

    Tonight, on Poker Superstars Invitational when it was down to 3 handed, they cut to commercial and put up the scoreboard. Todd Brunson was leading. Ted Forrest was second. Doyle Brunson was third.

    They come out of commercial and show us two small hands that Doyle won from Forrest, go into another commercial and put up the scoreboard again. Miraculously, Ted Forrest now has a substantial chip lead.

    Now, we all like to see Doyle play. We all enjoy seeing Doyle win. But, c'mon, Forrest didn't get the chip lead by magic. He had to have won a major hand to get there, but it was never shown.

    The way this thing is being presented just makes that whole series look totally bogus.

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    Apr 7th, 2005 (4/7/2005 11:13pm) in reply to Dunce

    Just like ESPN and their manufactured hands that they completely made up. They didn't even show the biggest pot of the WSOP this year which = 5 million i think. Instead they showed David Williams mom...gimme a break. Media is gonna turn poker into reality tv which is, well, not real.
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    Apr 7th, 2005 (4/7/2005 11:41pm) in reply to Dunce

    Problem with poker superstars invitational is the blinds get WAY too big. They were saying in that one that something like 6% of all chips were in play to begin every hand. It really takes pretty much all the skill out of it...
     
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    Apr 8th, 2005 (4/8/2005 12:26am) in reply to Adam

    Guess it depends on what you define as skill.

    Doyle was saying, after he busted out, that he really liked the format. Felt the blind structure really "gets the adrenaline flowing."

    I think if you look at Hold'em as a card game, the blind structure ruins your idea of skillful play. But, if you see Hold'em the way Doyle does, the blinds just enhance skillful play.

    You've got to admit, those blinds do put a premium on the ability to read the other player and correctly analyse the situation.

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    Apr 8th, 2005 (4/8/2005 1:28am) in reply to Dunce

    True it does add some excitement. I think Adam is mostly referring to how it removes post-flop play in many instances where many people think the most skill is needed.
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    Apr 8th, 2005 (4/8/2005 4:31am) in reply to shiZZa

    Haha, post flop play on superstars?? does not exist, the producers think the most exciting thing is when people are "ALL IN". No play, only cuts to when shortstacks move all in and get busted. A shame too since the original poker superstars was sweet.
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    Apr 8th, 2005 (4/8/2005 5:47am) in reply to yeleven_bets

    I like the GSN shows.
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    Apr 8th, 2005 (4/8/2005 8:10am) in reply to Adam

    The thing about a blind structure like this is that it removes any margin for error.

    You simply cannot make any mistakes. Especially in the later stages.

    When the cards run strange like they can in any compressed format, and certainly did in the Sklansky match ( he caught Pocket Aces 5 times ), those blinds can make it impossible for even perfect play to allow most other players to survive.

    Overall, I'd agree, this blind structure does increase the crapshoot factor. And, I think that's bad for poker in general.

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