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pokerstars bug or am i just too tired?

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  1. Koutchi Koutchi is offline

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    May 17th, 2008 (5/17/2008 10:18pm)

    pokerstars Game #17505227130: Tournament #88695914, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (1500/3000) - 2008/05/17 - 22:13:57 (ET)
    Table '88695914 13' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: possum poker (58472 in chips)
    Seat 2: zzIcall (92144 in chips)
    Seat 3: nerka25 (58392 in chips)
    Seat 4: farmer2005 (5738 in chips)
    Seat 5: Shafeeq (51885 in chips)
    Seat 6: Kiba52 (58865 in chips)
    Seat 7: TexasTman (53590 in chips)
    Seat 8: zman16222 (29552 in chips)
    Seat 9: floppern (28358 in chips)
    possum poker: posts the ante 300
    zzIcall: posts the ante 300
    nerka25: posts the ante 300
    farmer2005: posts the ante 300
    Shafeeq: posts the ante 300
    Kiba52: posts the ante 300
    TexasTman: posts the ante 300
    zman16222: posts the ante 300
    floppern: posts the ante 300
    zman16222: posts small blind 1500
    floppern: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to floppern [7d 4d]
    possum poker: folds
    zzIcall: calls 3000
    nerka25: folds
    farmer2005: raises 2438 to 5438 and is all-in
    Shafeeq: folds
    Kiba52: folds
    TexasTman: folds
    zman16222 has timed out
    zman16222: folds
    zman16222 is sitting out
    floppern: calls 2438
    zzIcall: raises 86406 to 91844 and is all-in
    floppern: folds
    Uncalled bet (86406) returned to zzIcall
    *** FLOP *** [5h Qh Ad]
    *** TURN *** [5h Qh Ad] [5d]
    *** RIVER *** [5h Qh Ad 5d] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    zzIcall: shows [Jc As] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
    farmer2005: shows [Kh 9h] (a pair of Fives)
    zzIcall collected 20514 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 20514 | Rake 0
    Board [5h Qh Ad 5d 2d]
    Seat 1: possum poker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: zzIcall showed [Jc As] and won (20514) with two pair, Aces and Fives
    Seat 3: nerka25 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: farmer2005 showed [Kh 9h] and lost with a pair of Fives
    Seat 5: Shafeeq folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Kiba52 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: TexasTman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: zman16222 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 9: floppern (big blind) folded before Flop

    How can zzIcall reraise me here? What am i missing. Even WITH the ante farmer2005 doesnt even have 6000.
  2. Goodburger Goodburger is offline

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    May 17th, 2008 (5/17/2008 10:22pm) in reply to Koutchi

    seems simple to me
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    May 17th, 2008 (5/17/2008 10:25pm) in reply to Goodburger

    I always thoguht that one needed to raise more than the BB for other people to be able to reraise again?
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    May 17th, 2008 (5/17/2008 10:28pm) in reply to Koutchi

    didn't notice that...thought you were talking about the play itself. I have no idea. I thought the same thing. I think its because it's all preflop so the AJ guy can raise whatever he wants?
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    May 17th, 2008 (5/17/2008 10:35pm) in reply to Koutchi

    I agree with OP. He should not be able to raise there on stars.

    Only on AP...
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    May 17th, 2008 (5/17/2008 10:45pm) in reply to Goodburger

    He basicly limped, and farmer2005 raised only 2600 something to 5600 total. The big blind is 3000. This is the reason i called, since i was getting a good price knowing that zzIcall can't raise me (or so i thought).

    I am pretty sure he should not be able to raise here in this spot. I wanted to be 100% sure before i werer to submit a bug report to pokerstars or something.
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 12:30am) in reply to Koutchi

    farmers raise was not a complete raise to 6000 so zz should not be able to reraise after he limped, email stars and ask wtf........i like how your 47 of diamonds woulda won like Stars standard.........
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 12:45am) in reply to dealace1

    shouldnt be able to reraise there.
     
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 1:25am) in reply to Koutchi

    i could be wrong, but isnt the rule that if its the first person in the pot who has less than 1 bb, nobody else can raise, so therefore because he wasnt first there can be raises after
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 1:58am) in reply to Koutchi

    if someone places more than 1.5 times the previous bet, there is "action". i.e., it's a live raise.

    the lowest amount he could've raised was up to 4500 for there to be continued action in the hand. if he raised it to 4499 or less, then only calls would be allowed.
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 2:12am) in reply to Koutchi

    Farmer2005 is the initial raiser, which makes all action available to players after him. Its the same as if the guy had 10 chips, all others are still able to raise. Now if you raised and he went all in for something less than double your raise, action would be dead to calling or folding. Hope that makes sense.
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 3:58am) in reply to Koutchi

    Yea, it would appear he was able to clear the minimum and allow action. However, OP, you should have realized before you flatted his allin that you too could have raised(the button should have been up on your screen).
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 4:02am) in reply to marinersjj

     
    Originally Posted by marinersjj View Post


    if someone places more than 1.5 times the previous bet, there is "action". i.e., it's a live raise.

    the lowest amount he could've raised was up to 4500 for there to be continued action in the hand. if he raised it to 4499 or less, then only calls would be allowed.

    this
     
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 7:27am) in reply to squintster

     
    Originally Posted by squintster View Post

    Yea, it would appear he was able to clear the minimum and allow action. However, OP, you should have realized before you flatted his allin that you too could have raised(the button should have been up on your screen).

    he can raise no matter what amount the guy has (but the limper cant)
     
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 8:25am) in reply to marinersjj

    Ok thanks for clearing that out for me :)
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    May 18th, 2008 (5/18/2008 8:25am) in reply to squintster

    Yes you are absolutely right, but i was so into the price i was getting that i guess i didnt notice. Thanks for pointing that out tho, i will look for it more often.
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