squeaky wheel gets the grease

I tried to do the same. But im not ZeeJustin.. Im not friends with KidPoker..

So see you in May I guess. Just remember folks who they look out for.

Thank you for your email. Your email was escalated to me as a member of
the <SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1238722238_0>pokerstars</SPAN> Game Security Team.

As you note, after serious consideration of the issues involved, the
player 'ZeeJustin' has indeed been allowed to play at PokerStars.

You may be aware that the incident that caused 'ZeeJustin' to be barred
from PokerStars happened three years ago. He has since recognized that what
he did was wrong, and has accepted the consequences of his actions. We have
no reason to believe he has ever tried to circumvent his suspension.

'ZeeJustin' has served a long punishment; he has expressed regret for his
actions to us and to the entire poker community; and he has even become a
crusader for fair play. Consequently, he has earned the respect of many of
his peers.

Though some in the poker world will never forgive him for what he did,
many already have. While we do not condone his actions in the past, we do
accept they are now in the past, so 'ZeeJustin' is now welcome to
play on PokerStars again.

PokerStars enforces its game security rules firmly, but fairly. We
consider every case on its merits, and we believe that the continued
suspension of 'ZeeJustin' is no longer appropriate.

Separately, on the issue of your self-exclusion, that is not something that
we are able to override. PokerStars has a self-exclusion service in
accordance with our commitment to responsible gaming, and a key part of that
commitment is that measures are not reversible.

Please let us know if there is anything else that we can do to assist you.

Regards,

Michael J
PokerStars Game Security Team

 

Originally Posted by AFink93

I tried to do the same. But im not ZeeJustin.. Im not friends with KidPoker..

So see you in May I guess. Just remember folks who they look out for.

Thank you for your email. Your email was escalated to me as a member of
the <span id="lw_1238722238_0">pokerstars</span> Game Security Team.

As you note, after serious consideration of the issues involved, the
player 'ZeeJustin' has indeed been allowed to play at PokerStars.

You may be aware that the incident that caused 'ZeeJustin' to be barred
from PokerStars happened three years ago. He has since recognized that what
he did was wrong, and has accepted the consequences of his actions. We have
no reason to believe he has ever tried to circumvent his suspension.

'ZeeJustin' has served a long punishment; he has expressed regret for his
actions to us and to the entire poker community; and he has even become a
crusader for fair play. Consequently, he has earned the respect of many of
his peers.

Though some in the poker world will never forgive him for what he did,
many already have. While we do not condone his actions in the past, we do
accept they are now in the past, so 'ZeeJustin' is now welcome to
play on PokerStars again.

PokerStars enforces its game security rules firmly, but fairly. We
consider every case on its merits, and we believe that the continued
suspension of 'ZeeJustin' is no longer appropriate.

Separately, on the issue of your self-exclusion, that is not something that
we are able to override. PokerStars has a self-exclusion service in
accordance with our commitment to responsible gaming, and a key part of that
commitment is that measures are not reversible.

Please let us know if there is anything else that we can do to assist you.

Regards,

Michael J
PokerStars Game Security Team

wow, pwned

don't care for FTilt only want to play on stars...
i'm playing on bodog, cake, and just started playing UB this month

but yeah...i asked for perm though that was the site that tilted me to begin with way back...but they said if i get a notarized letter from fam member saying i can play i can get back on.

pokerstars i asked for like 2months they saqid ok and never reactivated with no warnings that it would be perm

 

Originally Posted by AFink93

I tried to do the same. But im not ZeeJustin.. Im not friends with KidPoker..

So see you in May I guess. Just remember folks who they look out for.

Thank you for your email. Your email was escalated to me as a member of
the <SPAN class=yshortcuts id=lw_1238722238_0>pokerstars</SPAN> Game Security Team.

As you note, after serious consideration of the issues involved, the
player 'ZeeJustin' has indeed been allowed to play at PokerStars.

You may be aware that the incident that caused 'ZeeJustin' to be barred
from PokerStars happened three years ago. He has since recognized that what
he did was wrong, and has accepted the consequences of his actions. We have
no reason to believe he has ever tried to circumvent his suspension.

'ZeeJustin' has served a long punishment; he has expressed regret for his
actions to us and to the entire poker community; and he has even become a
crusader for fair play. Consequently, he has earned the respect of many of
his peers.

Though some in the poker world will never forgive him for what he did,
many already have. While we do not condone his actions in the past, we do
accept they are now in the past, so 'ZeeJustin' is now welcome to
play on PokerStars again.

PokerStars enforces its game security rules firmly, but fairly. We
consider every case on its merits, and we believe that the continued
suspension of 'ZeeJustin' is no longer appropriate.

Separately, on the issue of your self-exclusion, that is not something that
we are able to override. PokerStars has a self-exclusion service in
accordance with our commitment to responsible gaming, and a key part of that
commitment is that measures are not reversible.

Please let us know if there is anything else that we can do to assist you.

Regards,

Michael J
PokerStars Game Security Team

LOL that has nothing to do with the zeejustin issue you shouldnt have banned yourself if you couldnt ride it out

 

Originally Posted by turningstone

Hello Dean,

Thank you for your email. Your email was escalated to me as a member of
the pokerstars Game Security Team.

As you note, after serious consideration of the issues involved, the
player 'ZeeJustin' has indeed been allowed to play at PokerStars.

You may be aware that the incident that caused 'ZeeJustin' to be barred
from PokerStars happened three years ago. He has since recognized that what
he did was wrong, and has accepted the consequences of his actions. We have
no reason to believe he has ever tried to circumvent his suspension.

'ZeeJustin' has served a long punishment; he has expressed regret for his
actions to us and to the entire poker community; and he has even become a
crusader for fair play. Consequently, he has earned the respect of many of
his peers.

Though some in the poker world will never forgive him for what he did,
many already have. While we do not condone his actions in the past, we do
accept they are now in the past, so 'ZeeJustin' is now welcome to
play on PokerStars again.

PokerStars enforces its game security rules firmly, but fairly. We
consider every case on its merits, and we believe that the continued
suspension of 'ZeeJustin' is no longer appropriate.

However, there is nothing that will change our minds to allow you to return
to PokerStars. Your account was closed due to an admitted gambling problem
as stated in this email back on 9/20/2005:

"pokerstars please ban me from your site please for the remainder of the
year making it so I can't play on pokerstars til 2006. I have a huge
gambling problem and it has really taken my life downhill."

You have sent us many emails since then, each eliciting the same response
from us. The response has been that we cannot open your account. We have
gone back and forth over this issue for several years now. While we do
understand your frustration over this sensitive matter, we have a very
strict policy that prohibits us from opening a players account back up once
a player has requested their account be closed due to an uncontrolled
gambling problem.

You may think we are making a mistake about this decision, but rest
assured that we would rather err on the side of caution, then allow a
player who has admitted to a gambling problem back on our site, and have
the possibility of that player become harmful to themselves and everyone
around them.

We really wish you all the best in your future, but our decision remains firm.

Regards,

Michael J
PokerStars Game Security Team

well I guess its GG...and im banned for life for saying 1extra sentence that i didn't mean, my mistake. i give up officially after 3 years of trying to get back on. i'll just play under another persons name that is close to me...you can't keep a degenerate away muahahaha

or i could change my name if i wanted to get extream...muhahaha

Some people just don't get it.

LOL @ thread.

Well somebody who cheated got his account back and the kid is just wondering if he could get his account back as well. He clearly asked for his account to be banned for 3 months, over 3 years ago and he is still banned, there is something wrong with that. I feel that you have full moral authority (ok i made that term up) to play on somebody else's name. Gl on stars, you can play on my name I don't really play anymore, jk obv.

pokerstars is prob scared of being sued or getting negative publicity over people with gambling problems playing on their site. Therefore, they obv have a very strict policy on anyone stating they have a gambling problem from playing on their site.

Sucks for you and good message for anyone else not to tell Stars they have a "hugh gambling problem" when asking for a self ban.

 

Originally Posted by turningstone

now back then when i asked they didn't offer this "selfexclusion" but they do now...and i never asked for it to be permenant just for the remainder of 2006.

I think the OP's point is that he asked to be excluded for a period of time via email� before the "perma-ban" option was available through the software. If he did it through the software� he wouldn't have a case. If he wrote in his email to stars "I have a gambling problem; please ban me from your site"� he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

If he in fact asked for a ban of a specific duration via email� I think he does have a point. Either the OP is misrepresenting the interaction or PS is taking a typically hard-ass line.

ask them to provide you with the exact email you sent them to be excluded. if it says you asked for 1 year then i think they should reinstate your account.

 

Originally Posted by Adam

I find it kind of hard to believe that you think your situation is at all similar or comparable to the ZeeJustin situation...

You have to admit that it's kinda BS that they give "special treatment" to high profile players. If they can unban someone, they should be able to overturn someone's self exclusion. I made a mistake in my past when I was on monkey tilt and wrote pokerstars to self exclude me....ZeeJustin made a mistake in his past when he cheated, he was banned but PokerStars let him back.

ZeeJustin's mistake was much bigger than mine, but he is still allowed to come back.

 

Originally Posted by degen666

i agree, get pokerstars to prove to you that you asked for lifetime ban and not just 1 year

Why in the world should pokerstars have to prove anything to you? You guys are acting like you have a right to play on pokerstars.

Are you forgetting they are a private company who can include or exclude anyone they wish?

You fucked up dude. They think you still have a problem. It is their choice. Get over it.

On the other hand, they believe Zee paid his price.

The level of maturity showed by the OP just affirms pokerstars decision imo.

 

Originally Posted by Adam

I find it kind of hard to believe that you think your situation is at all similar or comparable to the ZeeJustin situation...

I find it hard to believe that anyone expected a post that didn't side with [poker site name here].

Seriously bro� you can abstain from posting on topics where you have an obv bias. Really.

 

Originally Posted by asheikh17

 

Originally Posted by SCTrojans

 

Originally Posted by Adam

I find it kind of hard to believe that you think your situation is at all similar or comparable to the ZeeJustin situation...

Both of you are dumb.

Unless you're implying that OP doesn't have the type of connections necessary to override a lifetime ban, in no way does OP's situation warrant the perpetuation of a ban moreso than that of ZJ.

He asked to be banned for a few months, over three fucking years ago! If OP fucks up again, it's his fault, not pokerstars'.

OP never asked for a lifetime ban, and in no way is Pokerstars obligated to impose one, imo.

So... the gambling problem just magically disappears after being banned for three months???? Stars made the right decision. For all we know.. he could be lying to them to feed his addiction some more.