This is a petition to pokerstars to add a cash step 6. Example and reasons below:

Step 6: 2100 Buyin

18k prize pool

1st- $5,500
2nd- $3,670
3rd- Step 6 ($2100)
4th- Step 6 ($2100)
5th- Step 6 ($2100)
6th- Step 5 ($700)
7th- Step 5 ($700)
8th- Step 4 ($215)
9th- Step 4 ($215)

Why the numbers above?
This will likely be more sought after by the players that start at steps 1-3. It will entice players to enter the step system that otherwise don't mess with it. Just having more steps running on a continual basis will be good for all levels, including the current step 6s offered.

Why is this beneficial?
This will get more people playing the steps system. Lately I have noticed less people playing the steps. I too admit I haven't played them hardly at all recently, but I did just use a few of my saved up step 5s to win 2 PCA packages in the $700 mtt. (hidden brag) If you gave more options as to ways to "exit" the step system, I believe this will increase the numbers overall. This step 6 would get more of the people that don't want to take a shot at a live tournament. There is also less risk involved in this proposed step as everyone is guaranteed to at least stay in the step system, again keeping the participation numbers high.

By keeping the participation numbers high, especially in steps 4 and 5...this will let people who do want to take a shot at the WSOP or PCA or whatever more games to play right then and there. That is the key, if a player wants to play.....it needs to be there ready to go. If nothing is going, then they don't really see a reason to even register, thus bringing a halt to the whole step system.

Another reason this is good, is to keep the numbers high even when there is not a highly sought after package up for grabs.

Tell me what you think.....if you want, put in the numbers for your own step 6!

I've emailed stars with a similar idea before, but with no results. Having more ways to exit the step's system would be a great way to boost the action..that way people who want more steps to PCA running get their wish.

cosign

not sure how many would want to win just 5500 for first on that payout tho..... I would take out 1 of the 2100 and add it to 1st for say 7500 or so

good idea, cosign

i cosign.

however, i would pay cash to the top 3, and use the rest for other step tickets to the next 3 or so.

i believe stevie444 and others may stay way from this step6 sng if only the top 3 get paid cash, with first getting around 3 buyins back. i could be wrong tho.

i agree with your logic about keeping ppl in the step system playing. adding some kind of cash step system would be great!

Cosign. I would def start playing these if they had a cash out option in Step 6.

They need to get rid of the ability to win multiple seats for the same event. The main reason I don't play the steps any more is because I know that the experts sit in on the Step 5 and 6 games, so my odds, which are already low to begin with, are even lower going up against these experts.

Starting with the Step 4's - all steps are specific to a target event. Once you win a seat in the target event, all of your remaining tickets cannot be used for any Step 4's+ for that event. You don't lose them, but you can use them for other events.

I'm not sure why Stars doesn't limit these to 1/person. You could easily get another couple of hundred participating in the PCA (or other events) repping pokerstars just by this one change.

When this is implemented, allow people a one time option to convert their Step 4's plus into T$.

agree

Please take this as a compliment Stevie - but you obviously have hundreds of thousands (and likely millions) of reasons to not change the current structure.

It's like asking someone on death row if they should outlaw the death penalty.

 

Originally Posted by SigmaBetaRho

I like it but I do think it will be fine if 7th, 8th, and 9th don't get paid

I think the whole point in this post was that step 6 would pay out to all 9 places

You can change the payouts slightly. Like make more step 4s and step 5s, instead of step 6s. Then add money to the top 2 places or add 3rd place as cash.

But yes, the general idea is to get the players back into the step 4s and 5s. This would increase the number of games going in those steps. By paying all 9, it guarantees this to happen. While at the same time allowing people to "exit" with a cash win.

cosign

cosign

once posted this idea and got good responses from the community overall - sent to stars but no response - unfortunately they dont seem interested in adding cash steps - sux cause its how I had my first big break on party (the good old days). I think this system gives everything to everyone's needs and preferences. Personally I feel left out of stars' current step system - just stop at step 4 - no reason to go further really and grind like stevie and others cause I cant travel around the world and play the "first won seat" (except wsop and wcoop). Seems a little unfair - I dont believe in excluding multiple seat wins so that is not the answer - the regs are needed so that doesnt work but not fair that I cant take advantage of the system - cash steps fixes it, and those who want to go for the live events will still do it regardless.

Step 1 - 1.75 buyin - 1-2 move on

Step 2 - 7.50 - Current system

Step 3 - 27 - Current system to move to step 4

Step 3a Step out - 1-2 tix to 109 buyin event, 3rd - $7 cash

Step 4 - 82 buyin - Current system to step 4

Step4a - 1-4 tix to 162 buyin, 5th $27

Here is where it gets real interesting

Step 5 - 215 - Current system to move to step 5

Step 5a - 3 seats to the 530, 210 cash

Step 5b - 10 person sng - 2 seats to the super tuesday (stars can eat the 100 and this would fix the fact that the 18 person sng rarely runs)

Step 5c - 10 person sng - Super sunday ticket package (warmup, million, 2nd chance) - 1-3, 4th 65 cash - (could run as 9 person sng - 2 packages and 510 cash)

Step 5d - Cash sng - pays standard sng payouts - 50-30-20

Step 6 - 700 - normal to step 6

Step 6a - 5 super sunday packages (adding on the 530) and 6th 305 cash

Step6b - Cash sng - 50-30-20

Step 7 - Big live event

Step 7a - Cash sng - 50-30-20

Obviously cash sngs can pay out more than this like op noted - this system allows someone to really gamble - thoughts?

 

Originally Posted by stevie444

stars doesn't do this because they like money. If it was restricted to one per person step 6s would run like once a month.

I agree with Stevie on this one. We want all of the steps to run more, not less. The more regs going for multiple seats for a particular event, the more they run. So what if Stevie or Busto or Imp or (fill in step God here) are there to knock me out at the end. At least it means step 6 is running.

THREAD HIJACK: (WARNING: This might get long)

I was actually looking to start some discussion about increasing traffic for the steps before I saw this thread. I disagree that Stars should either go to a pure cash step system or limit the amount of seats for players. Both of these are unlikely to happen anyway.

Stars is going the other way with the steps. Once Stars adjusted the Sunday majors to allow step 4 tickets and made the PCA qualifier a $700 (for which you can use step 5 tickets) they are getting closer to making the steps a solid satellite system for their regular tournaments. To me, that's a good thing. I think the better (and more natural) thing that Stars should do is adjust their current tourney schedule to better fit the step system.

Step 2 ($25+2): Stars runs $20+2 tourneys at 12:00pm and 1:00pm; a $27.50 at 8:00pm and various capped tourneys throughout the day with buy-ins from $20-27.50. They should make all of their buy-ins uniform for this level throughout the day- all of these should be $27.00 buyins for which you can use a Step 2 ticket.

Step 3 ($75+7): Currently, there is no comparable level for the use of these tickets. Most of Stars' signature midstakes freeze-outs are $50+5. I'd love to see them make the Daily Eighty Grand (at 3:00 pm) and Daily Seventy Grand (at 9:30pm) an $82 buyin and accept step 3 tickets. At least there are many holes to put in either capped or uncapped $82s throughout both the daily and evening schedule.

Step 4 ($200+15): This is the one stars already does right. I would love to see a daily $215 in addition to the Sunday Majors. A possible suggestion: the Nightly Hundred Grand. I don't play it for $162 but would play it for $215 if they allowed step 4 tickets.

Step 5 ($670+30): Again Stars gets this right for PCA and (I assume) will continue this for WSOP and EPT qualifiers. I would love to see a weekly $700 though with step 5 tickets. Perhaps increase the Sunday 500 to $700 and accept Step 5 tickets? A more radical idea: A Sunday Special for Step 5 tickets- giving the holder entry to the Warm-up, Million, Second Chance and Sunday Special 200 (215+215+215+55=700).

Step 6 ($2000+100): For the most part these should be used for live packages. The only thing I could suggest is a weekly or bi-weekly tournament with a $2100 buy-in. I know this was tried once and got 20-30 runners. Perhaps they can alternate it every week- odd weeks: packages; even weeks: a deep-stacked high-roller winner-take-all like the one they used to do for $5200. This could be the cashout tournament that everyone is all looking for as well.

I know I hijacked the thread but I figured the people reading this already have an interest in the steps and would be the people most interested in this stuff.

CLIFFS NOTES:
1. Disagree with the cash steps and limiting regs from winning multiple packages;

2. Stars should go even further to integrate the step system and their tourney schedule. This will increase step traffic and allow more mid-stakers like myself (cough:fresh fish:cough) to play higher buy-in tourneys for bigger prize pools.

END HIJACK