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  1. drewmas7 drewmas7 is offline

    Louisville, KY
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    Apr 24th, 2009 (4/24/2009 11:45am)

    I logged on to PTR this morning and found that they are now selling their data mined hand histories in bulk.

    I'm curious what everyone thinks about that. Is it against the rules at stars to buy and use datamined HH's in HEM and PT? Does anyone have ethical objections? Personally I think it is a great idea and business model for them and will gladly utilize it as long as Stars says it is ok.

    What does everyone else think?
  2. dealace1 dealace1 is offline @ UFC 115 via UB

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    Apr 24th, 2009 (4/24/2009 11:58am) in reply to drewmas7

    Their rules state that the following is allowed:

    Tools and services that profile your opponents, but make use of only information which you have accumulated through your own play.

    So buying HH for games you didn't play is clearly against their terms.
  3. BigSlim BigSlim is offline

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    Apr 24th, 2009 (4/24/2009 12:44pm) in reply to dealace1

    Against their TOU but how would you get caught?
  4. YoshiYashiki YoshiYashiki is offline

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    Apr 24th, 2009 (4/24/2009 1:20pm) in reply to BigSlim

    There are many sites that have been selling datamined hand histories for a long time.

    Heres a thread from 2+2 about another site that offers this service and some of the responses in it may help:

    http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/45...source-314451/

    stars are quoted as saying:

    "We do not have prohibitions on things we cannot literally enforce. While
    it is forbidden to datamine on our site, we do not have a prohibition on
    buying hand histories."
  5. iatetheredcrayon iatetheredcrayon is offline

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    Apr 24th, 2009 (4/24/2009 3:48pm) in reply to drewmas7

    this is trash imo.
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