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postflop with 10s.... slow down or fire 2nd bullet?

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  1. AJyowler AJyowler is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 7:46pm)

    villian seemed solid.. hadn't really gotten out of line... pretty dry flop so his flat threw me off... thoughts on what to do on turn?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #27716021225: $2,000 Guarantee (1r+1a) (215173349), Table 191 - 200/400 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:07:52 ET - 2011/01/29
    Seat 1: fahrenheit32 (7,102), is sitting out
    Seat 2: ches2340 (20,455)
    Seat 3: posty456 (5,058)
    Seat 4: Iaintmadatcha (17,716)
    Seat 5: proinzer (21,610)
    Seat 6: JohnSellitto (7,640)
    Seat 7: 6_7_of_Diamonds (13,680)
    Seat 8: shinthps (9,141)
    Seat 9: durrrrr789 (14,349)
    fahrenheit32 antes 50
    ches2340 antes 50
    posty456 antes 50
    Iaintmadatcha antes 50
    proinzer antes 50
    JohnSellitto antes 50
    6_7_of_Diamonds antes 50
    shinthps antes 50
    durrrrr789 antes 50
    ches2340 posts the small blind of 200
    posty456 posts the big blind of 400
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Iaintmadatcha [Th Ts]
    Iaintmadatcha raises to 800
    proinzer has 15 seconds left to act
    proinzer has timed out
    proinzer folds
    proinzer is sitting out
    JohnSellitto folds
    6_7_of_Diamonds calls 800
    shinthps folds
    durrrrr789 folds
    fahrenheit32 folds
    ches2340 calls 600
    posty456 folds
    *** FLOP *** [6s 4c 4h]
    ches2340 checks
    Iaintmadatcha bets 3,250
    6_7_of_Diamonds folds
    ches2340 calls 3,250
    *** TURN *** [6s 4c 4h] [3c]
    ches2340 checks
    Iaintmadatcha ??

    anybody?
  2. Pghfan987 Pghfan987 is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 7:50pm) in reply to AJyowler

    I don't stop betting at those stakes.
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  3. kcd0g kcd0g is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:08pm) in reply to Pghfan987

    flop more sets obv.
  4. AJyowler AJyowler is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:28pm) in reply to kcd0g

     
    Originally Posted by kcd0g View Post

    flop more sets obv.


    stellar advice
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  5. kobyy kobyy is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:32pm) in reply to kcd0g

     
    Originally Posted by kcd0g View Post

    turn more boats obv.

    fyp
     
  6. Burying_Luck Burying_Luck is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:42pm) in reply to kobyy

    i would wager some chips.
  7. POKER_PANDA POKER_PANDA is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:45pm) in reply to Burying_Luck

    did u cbet 3250 into a 2800 chip pot?
  8. mini bomberr mini bomberr is offline calls for hoodie equity

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:46pm) in reply to POKER_PANDA

    i fire again
  9. AJyowler AJyowler is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:48pm) in reply to POKER_PANDA

     
    Originally Posted by POKER_PANDA View Post

    did u cbet 3250 into a 2800 chip pot?

    no, I bet 3250 into a 3250 pot... you doing any different?
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  10. rayfox111 rayfox111 is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 8:51pm) in reply to Pghfan987

    Think prob has a pair or Ax. My guess would be a pair, the question is how big?
    He looks like hes got a sniff on the flop, hes still interested anyway!
    If hes solid hes likely putting you on the same sort of hand, and hes OOP.
    Dont think he on a draw.
    Id be checking the turn also, If you must bet it Id try him with a small bet of 2500, see what he makes of that!
    Dont care for the feel of the hand though, but Im nitty, IDK I think he could have JJ+ but hed prob 3bet those pre most of the time?
    A sets poss, so is A4 & A6, but still think a pair is likeliest, the question is, is it larger than TT?
  11. mini bomberr mini bomberr is offline calls for hoodie equity

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 9:03pm) in reply to rayfox111

    smells like A6/55/77 tbh
  12. The Trumpet The Trumpet is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 9:07pm) in reply to AJyowler

     
    Originally Posted by AJyowler View Post

    no, I bet 3250 into a 3250 pot... you doing any different?


    Ah a pot junkie.

    I hate that pot button it makes people look like baboons cause they can't think for themselves, they just press a button.

    I cbet about 2680.
  13. AJyowler AJyowler is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 9:13pm) in reply to The Trumpet

     
    Originally Posted by The Trumpet View Post

    Ah a pot junkie.

    I hate that pot button it makes people look like baboons cause they can't think for themselves, they just press a button.

    I cbet about 2680.


    sick sample size... I bet pot because I thought my hand was vulnerable to overcards... 2680 might have done the same thing...
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  14. luckierno7 luckierno7 is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 9:48pm) in reply to rayfox111

    yeah; dont c bet full pot; it will become obvious u have it when u do that and u dont have it when u c bet 40%
    i bet turn again
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  15. joeyrulesall joeyrulesall is offline

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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 9:51pm) in reply to AJyowler

    When I see people using the bet pot button a few times they get the yellow tag that I apply to all horrible players.
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    Jan 29th, 2011 (1/29/2011 11:09pm) in reply to joeyrulesall

    plz do not min raise at these stakes, i play this tourney often, bet 1/2 on flop, turn bet a little more than half.
    Edited By: Newspaperman Jan 29th, 2011 at 11:10 PM
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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 3:08am) in reply to Newspaperman

    id bet 75-100% of the pot on the flop to suss him out, if he just calls i would then overbet to about 125% of the pot on the turn to see exactly what he has, you will know soon enough if he's still fishing or not by his raise or fold, if he calls then you know you are beat unless you river a ten
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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 3:52am) in reply to norv

    I bet about halfish on flop and I definitely fire another 50% on turn.
     
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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 4:06am) in reply to norv

    As played, check.
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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 4:09am) in reply to norv

     
    Originally Posted by norv View Post

    id bet 75-100% of the pot on the flop to suss him out, if he just calls i would then overbet to about 125% of the pot on the turn to see exactly what he has, you will know soon enough if he's still fishing or not by his raise or fold, if he calls then you know you are beat unless you river a ten

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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 4:28am) in reply to norv

     
    Originally Posted by norv View Post

    id bet 75-100% of the pot on the flop to suss him out, if he just calls i would then overbet to about 125% of the pot on the turn to see exactly what he has, you will know soon enough if he's still fishing or not by his raise or fold, if he calls then you know you are beat unless you river a ten

    no, for the love of god, no.
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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 5:09am) in reply to Pghfan987

     
    Originally Posted by Pghfan987 View Post

    I don't stop betting at those stakes.

    This
     
  23. iFish iFish is offline

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    Jan 30th, 2011 (1/30/2011 5:21am) in reply to dansaboss

    Make your bets smaller but 2 barrel at these stakes.
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    Feb 11th, 2011 (2/11/2011 10:46am) in reply to norv

    HAHAHA. What exactly is the point of sussins him out on that sort of flop. On flop I would value or bet half pot to induce a call or raise because I doubt you are beat here. I don't really see small stakes players flat with great hands. The min is fine in the beggining. For the turn I fire out a decent size bet to look like I am trying to steal the pot and if he shoves I muck and if he calls I'd say his range is 55-99.
     
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    Feb 11th, 2011 (2/11/2011 1:16pm) in reply to The Trumpet

     
    Originally Posted by The Trumpet View Post

    Ah a pot junkie.

    I hate that pot button it makes people look like baboons cause they can't think for themselves, they just press a button.

    I cbet about 2680.

    i hate people who say i bet 'about', and then say an exact figure, you say i bet about 2500, not i bet about 2673.

    But OP i dont like min raising pre and then just mashing pot on flop, just seems like you might lose value from worse hands, i cbet between about 1932-2407
    Edited By: Sdanby Feb 11th, 2011 at 01:17 PM
  26. Laois Hammer Laois Hammer is offline

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    Feb 11th, 2011 (2/11/2011 2:41pm) in reply to norv

     
    Originally Posted by norv View Post

    id bet 75-100% of the pot on the flop to suss him out, if he just calls i would then overbet to about 125% of the pot on the turn to see exactly what he has, you will know soon enough if he's still fishing or not by his raise or fold, if he calls then you know you are beat unless you river a ten

    so you invest 13k and decide your beat? what now?
     
  27. AceSpade2675 AceSpade2675 is offline

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    Feb 11th, 2011 (2/11/2011 3:57pm) in reply to Laois Hammer

    The min bet pre causes way too many problems with TT. You are going to get way too many flops with over cards, and at these stakes you are letting the blinds come in with all sorts of Jx, Kx, Qx type hands because it "is only another 400 to call".

    I would bet around 2500 on the flop and go ahead and fire turn.
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