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The pot+ bet on river when no one shows any interest in it

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  1. moriAArty moriAArty is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2008 (10/13/2008 11:33pm)

    Okay, seems I am seeing this pretty regularly now and I guess it perplexes me:

    Example:
    KTT92 board. 4 handed, pot is say, 480. Checked to river. Player bets 550. Called by A9. He shows KTT. I just saw this happen. I can think of many similar examples of this I've been seeing recently. It's not called everytime so I can't say for certain what the bettor had, but I'd say 75% of the time I see a showdown the guy has the nuts.

    Is the thought process that an overbet signals weakness whereas a value bet (say 200) shows strength? Which is more likely to be called?

    I play MTTs and SNGs $5-$10 so unsure if this is a micro phenomenon or what.

    moriAArty
  2. agpmedia agpmedia is offline

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    Oct 13th, 2008 (10/13/2008 11:38pm) in reply to moriAArty

    Largely depends on the players involved in the hand. At the micro levels though, anything goes :). I've seen it go both ways so I wouldn't say that pot size betting every time means they are trying to show a bluff. Just pay attention to their other bet sizes and see if they only do this when a calling station is involved in the hand (value bet them to death!). You can usually pick off when they're bluffing or trying to bait someone to play back at them. If the guy is overbetting the pot every flop, turn and river then you should be able to get the hint that he's bluffing at least a good portion of the time.
  3. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 12:17am) in reply to moriAArty

    its not a phenomenon. its just a play that sometimes works if people always wanna call bs on someone when theyre 'buying the pot'
  4. Annette_15 Annette_15 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 1:29am) in reply to downbylaw11

    Their logic is simple: 'Damn, I forgot to build to pot when I was slowplaying... I better do it now.' Lower buy ins they always have the nuts when overbetting the pot (unless an overbet is shoving, then there's a better chance its a bluff because they feel desperate and need chips'. U even see this a lot at higher stakes too.
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  5. SpauldingSmails SpauldingSmails is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 1:32am) in reply to Annette_15

    it usually means the guy has the nuts....all you are seeing is why hero calls there are spewtastic
  6. jfiiue4 jfiiue4 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 1:32am) in reply to moriAArty

    weeeee I flopped a monster check check check... lame ill check raise blank turn... check check check... blasjfldksjfljsd;lfjs; I want value on my nuts so i guess Ill blast an over bet and some smuck will call. the end
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