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preflop spot w/ JJ @FT of $55 40k on stars

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  1. kxywrx kxywrx is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 12:28am)

    okerStars Game #44347578787: Tournament #312010683, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXI (3500/7000) - 2010/05/19 19:47:14 PT [2010/05/19 22:47:14 ET]
    Table '312010683 77' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
    Seat 2: V.V.1974... (305650 in chips)
    Seat 3: JThund3r (183579 in chips)
    Seat 4: pollyson (330091 in chips)
    Seat 5: funkydals (622407 in chips)
    Seat 6: NdamukongSuh (393878 in chips)
    Seat 7: +callU24fun (515957 in chips)
    Seat 8: kxywrx1 (577920 in chips)
    Seat 9: WhatArunAA (97518 in chips)
    V.V.1974...: posts the ante 700
    JThund3r: posts the ante 700
    pollyson: posts the ante 700
    funkydals: posts the ante 700
    NdamukongSuh: posts the ante 700
    +callU24fun: posts the ante 700
    kxywrx1: posts the ante 700
    WhatArunAA: posts the ante 700
    WhatArunAA: posts small blind 3500
    V.V.1974...: posts big blind 7000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to kxywrx1 [Jc Js]
    JThund3r: folds
    pollyson: raises 10790 to 17790
    funkydals: folds
    NdamukongSuh: calls 17790
    +callU24fun: folds
    kxywrx1:

    the final table is still young and everyone is pretty deep. pollyson hasn't really gotten out of line and has been raising some, but not a crazy amount. Nda has been fairly tight from what i've seen and i don't necessarily read his flat as super strong all of the time because of how deep everyone is, and just how he's been playing. what's your play here? is the standard play just to squeeze and if we do, who are we getting it in against? i think the most important things to note in this hand is the relative deepness of our stack sizes. so pd, what's your play/plan ?

    edit: Thanks FWK for reminding me, but i believe my image is somewhat laggy. i've been raising probably the most out of everyone at the FT so far, but we've only been through 3-4 orbits i believe. i think i may have 3b once so far, but certainly not a crazy %.
     
  2. FenwayKing FenwayKing is offline The Well: FenwayKing

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 1:35am) in reply to kxywrx

    I probably flat, unless I have crazy loose image where I feel comfortable 3b/getting it in. From what I remember of your play, you're pretty aggro, but I'm not sure what yours was in this spot.

    It just seems too deep to just 3b/get it in a vacuum.

    *even with a really loose image without a ton of 3b history where they will spaz a lot, just seems like a flat
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  3. mtstackin88 mtstackin88 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 2:33am) in reply to FenwayKing

    flat
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  4. funnygut funnygut is offline gone hollywood

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 3:58am) in reply to mtstackin88

     
    Originally Posted by mtstackin88 View Post

    flat

     
  5. mattdb9er mattdb9er is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 11:30am) in reply to funnygut

    i read this, and actually thought that i might flat, but wasnt sure if that was weak, seems like most say flat , i guess also depends on player reads if i 3bet get it in or not , i guess either are ok imo depending on players etc
     
  6. Gags30 Gags30 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 1:36pm) in reply to mattdb9er

    i would call

    regardless of how loose/crazy your image has been i highly doubt that either of these players are gonna tool with much worse here when there's still 9 left. people don't like getting 9th.
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  7. Pipes06 Pipes06 is offline

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 9:57pm) in reply to kxywrx

    Both players are competant and unlikely to spaz out. I flat and don't go crazy with an under card board.

    You've got an aggressive player as a shorty, raising and getting shoved on leaves you in a spot where you hate life as you'll be burning $EV by calling.
     
  8. DBo Fo Sho DBo Fo Sho is offline Taking advantage of Official Threads

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    May 20th, 2010 (5/20/2010 10:06pm) in reply to Pipes06

    i flat as well, careful, Suh is very strong if you know what i mean
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