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The problem I always have when playing no matter how much I train.

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  1. gymrat56 gymrat56 is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 6:39am)

    I understand everything I've been coached to do. In fact, it sounds so simple that it seems like anyone could adjust to any strategy in 5 mins if they had half a brain. So, I always give people too much credit for knowing what they're doing. How do you guys go about remembering that people are so bad that they can't or don't even play half-decent most of the time?

    I pretty much only ever play people once, so it's tough to know what people are up to at first so I end up having to make a ton of decisions just based on what "the avg player at these stakes" would probably do and a lot of the time that leads me to making big mistakes just because I either overestimate avg player's ability or, as sometimes happens, the guy turns out to have half a clue.

    Thanks
  2. ZenEnso ZenEnso is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 6:49am) in reply to gymrat56

    I imagine this is the same problem everyone has when they are running bad. How I wish I knew the answer.
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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 6:52am) in reply to gymrat56

    What level are you playing, what site, and is it ring games, MTTs, or SGs?
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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 6:54am) in reply to Ace10Suted

    I play micro-low MTTs on stars with fairly occasional mid MTT. Decent amount of 180 90 and 45 mans too.
  5. gymrat56 gymrat56 is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 7:01am) in reply to ZenEnso

    Same
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  6. Ace10Suted Ace10Suted is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 7:06am) in reply to ZenEnso

     
    Originally Posted by ZenEnso View Post

    I play micro-low MTTs on stars with fairly occasional mid MTT. Decent amount of 180 90 and 45 mans too.

    Pretty much same level/games as me, except I mix some ring games in as well, generally .25/.50 or lower.

    1) At this level don't give people credit for the ability to "make moves" in the first couple hours of a large MTT. If they're playing back at you, you'll find more often than not, they have it. Pick good spots, and have some controlled aggression. They don't like getting into big pots with marginal hands. As any large field multi, you have to wade through the mine field for a while. For the SGs, you shouldn't necessarily be playing it like a MTT anyway. SG strategy, even multi-table SGs are much different than MTT strategy, and in the end, you generally just need to know push/fold pretty well.
    2) You say you play people only once, but this is not true. You're not taking enough notes. Whenever you see a showdown where someone did something "out of the ordinary", note it. In many of the SGs I play in, ST or MT, I have notes on at least one or two players at the table. Even more so in cash as players frequent the same stake SGs and cash. It's a little more difficult to run across the same players in the 2000-3000 player MTTs, but I do occasionally get those as well.

    Hope this helps.
  7. McWilliams1 McWilliams1 is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 1:55pm) in reply to Ace10Suted

    Good advice
  8. mattdb9er mattdb9er is offline

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    Sep 20th, 2010 (9/20/2010 11:57pm) in reply to McWilliams1

    n low stakes try to trap the weak with big hands , i guess that applys to any stakes , but in micros just gonna find more of them , try to get them to spaz out when u have the goods
     
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