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Profitable to call here?

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  1. Jeezy 88 Jeezy 88 is offline

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    Apr 3rd, 2011 (4/3/2011 11:54pm)

    I am wondering if it is profitable to call here. I figured I had him beat because he pushed last round in the same position. I put him on a WIDE RANGE. Very wide. What do you guys think?

    pokerstars Game #60289546787: Tournament #414010003, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVIII (2000/4000) - 2011/04/03 18:50:50 ET
    Table '414010003 2378' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: eye.pee.$$$ (15984 in chips)
    Seat 2: loonette12 (56876 in chips)
    Seat 3: $$D0LARIIN$$ (121449 in chips)
    Seat 4: pittbbull (67278 in chips)
    Seat 5: Ravensjmm (77450 in chips)
    Seat 6: fragtive (29064 in chips)
    Seat 7: Dr.souL (158679 in chips)
    Seat 8: Jeezy 88 (37820 in chips)
    Seat 9: handymike81 (91734 in chips)
    eye.pee.$$$: posts the ante 400
    loonette12: posts the ante 400
    $$D0LARIIN$$: posts the ante 400
    pittbbull: posts the ante 400
    Ravensjmm: posts the ante 400
    fragtive: posts the ante 400
    Dr.souL: posts the ante 400
    Jeezy 88: posts the ante 400
    handymike81: posts the ante 400
    Dr.souL: posts small blind 2000
    Jeezy 88: posts big blind 4000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Jeezy 88 [4h As]
    handymike81: folds
    eye.pee.$$$: folds
    loonette12: folds
    $$D0LARIIN$$: folds
    pittbbull: folds
    Jeezy 88 said, "KK"
    Jeezy 88 said, "lol"
    Ravensjmm: folds
    fragtive: raises 24664 to 28664 and is all-in
    Dr.souL: folds
    Jeezy 88: calls 24664
    *** FLOP *** [Kd 9d 6c]
    *** TURN *** [Kd 9d 6c] [Ts]
    *** RIVER *** [Kd 9d 6c Ts] [Qc]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Jeezy 88: shows [4h As] (high card Ace)
    fragtive: shows [Qs Ks] (two pair, Kings and Queens)
    fragtive collected 62928 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 62928 | Rake 0
    Board [Kd 9d 6c Ts Qc]
    Seat 1: eye.pee.$$$ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: loonette12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: $$D0LARIIN$$ folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: pittbbull folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: Ravensjmm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: fragtive (button) showed [Qs Ks] and won (62928) with two pair, Kings and Queens
    Seat 7: Dr.souL (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 8: Jeezy 88 (big blind) showed [4h As] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 9: handymike81 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. ShipThisPLZ ShipThisPLZ is offline

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    Apr 4th, 2011 (4/4/2011 4:01am) in reply to Jeezy 88

    well u called and you were ahead, so obviously you thought you were ahead of his range(which you are) so u posted this hand because you lost a flip right?
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  3. tyson219 tyson219 is offline Moderator

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    Apr 4th, 2011 (4/4/2011 4:46am) in reply to ShipThisPLZ

    Run it through pokerstove. If you're ahead of the range you're assigning, then you made the right play.

    I'm calling there if I think the villain is wide.
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  4. Jeezy 88 Jeezy 88 is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 1:12am) in reply to ShipThisPLZ

    Come on, Shipthis... No need to be rude. I am trying to become a better player. I'm not posting ignorant stuff.
    Edited By: Jeezy 88 Apr 5th, 2011 at 01:13 AM
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  5. wackyJaxon wackyJaxon is offline Admin X

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 1:16am) in reply to Jeezy 88

     
    Originally Posted by Jeezy 88 View Post

    Come on, Shipthis... No need to be rude. I am trying to become a better player. I'm not posting ignorant stuff.

    Jeezy, if you leave out results next time and just asking about hand ranges, and what to do, I think you will get better responses on your next question, etc.
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  6. mcandrews3rd mcandrews3rd is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 3:29am) in reply to wackyJaxon

    the guys range is super wide, but before calling you hav to know your never going to be much infront, a fair bit of the time ur behind too and so cant be too bummed if you loose
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  7. grapsfan grapsfan is offline Head Curmudgeon

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 3:34am) in reply to Jeezy 88

     
    Originally Posted by Jeezy 88 View Post

    Come on, Shipthis... No need to be rude. I am trying to become a better player. I'm not posting ignorant stuff.

    He's not being rude...he's being honest. I think it's important for everyone to be secure enough in the face of brutal truth. Nobody is going to learn anything if we all sugarcoat responses to someone's mistake, whether that mistake is a specific play in a hand or being results-oriented in judging the quality of a decision. Don't get your feelings hurt; it's nothing personal. In this specific instance, you got your money in good. So it's unclear what your question might be, because it seems pretty obvious.

    Let's take a step back, and try to answer this the way Tyson is suggesting....

    Jeezy, with what SPECIFIC hand range do you think the Villain in this hand would shove 7 BB? 25% of all hands? 50% of all hands? Any Two Cards?

    Download PokerStove, put your hand and those ranges into the program, and post back in this thread what you come up with.
    Edited By: grapsfan Apr 5th, 2011 at 03:38 AM
     
  8. mcandrews3rd mcandrews3rd is offline

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    Apr 5th, 2011 (4/5/2011 3:58am) in reply to grapsfan

    to be fair to the guy, it may not be results orientated, his question wasnt if you know he has kq do you call a4o.

    mayb he wasnt sure if a4o was doin well enough against the guys range to make it a call, which is a gd question to ask

    i hate to see posts like ak kk qq etc being beat aipf but this isnt quite the same scenario
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