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proportion of winning players vs losing players

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  1. dionysian dionysian is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2007 (12/21/2007 9:30pm)

    i've got poker tracker and i've used it on and off over a few years, never for a real extended period of time. and i've had multiple computers and operating installs, so there hasn't really been much continuity of dbs. so the sample sizes are relatively low.

    anyway, whenever i've looked under the summary it seems like 60% are losing and 40% are winning... is this about right over the long run? i remember reading in one of sklansky's books that really only 5% are winning/solvent players, so this seems really odd to me. just wondering if any players with a larger sample can enlighten me.
  2. jtown1010 jtown1010 is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2007 (12/21/2007 9:35pm) in reply to dionysian

    Probably rolls somehing like:
    -5% winning playa's
    -15% break-even playa's
    -80% losing playa's

    Assuming a relatively significant sample size
  3. sketchy1 sketchy1 is online now Dangerzone

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    Dec 21st, 2007 (12/21/2007 9:36pm) in reply to jtown1010

    prob more like .5% winning players
      

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  4. dionysian dionysian is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2007 (12/21/2007 9:41pm) in reply to sketchy1

    i dunno about .5%... i'm a (very) modestly winning player and i wouldn't consider myself better that 199 out of 200 people. maybe 19 out of 20, but i'm definitely not *THAT* good. :)
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  5. rrrbi56 rrrbi56 is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2007 (12/21/2007 9:48pm) in reply to dionysian

    I have always been confused when people say only 10% are winners. It's like 35/65 or 40/60 winners to losers in big poker tracker databases depending on the stakes or rake %. I think tourney winners are a smaller % but cash games it's definitely bigger than 5 or 10%
  6. dionysian dionysian is offline

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    Dec 21st, 2007 (12/21/2007 9:50pm) in reply to rrrbi56

    hmm yeah this confirms my thought... something tells me sklansky knew what he was talking about when he quoted 5%... but this was pre-internet era and casinos rape you with the rake so maybe that is really the difference maker.
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