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PS $10 rebuy - Range Help

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  1. mogoxx mogoxx is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 2:31pm)

    no reads on villain, he just moved to the table 1-2 orbits ago and hasn't done anything... this is deep, with about 6 tables remaining...

    pokerstars Game #60647798847: Tournament #415010647, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVIII (10000/20000) - 2011/04/10 22:19:06 ET
    Table '415010647 17' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
    Seat 1: hunde (382840 in chips)
    Seat 2: eduardhun (361098 in chips)
    Seat 3: niñocalavera (685556 in chips)
    Seat 4: El Cid926 (209664 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 5: mogoxx (651876 in chips)
    Seat 6: ambrose89 (479859 in chips)
    Seat 7: SuperFleXxX (341380 in chips)
    Seat 8: el_rage (265486 in chips)
    Seat 9: gagdan80 (610967 in chips)
    hunde: posts the ante 3500
    eduardhun: posts the ante 3500
    niñocalavera: posts the ante 3500
    El Cid926: posts the ante 3500
    mogoxx: posts the ante 3500
    ambrose89: posts the ante 3500
    SuperFleXxX: posts the ante 3500
    el_rage: posts the ante 3500
    gagdan80: posts the ante 3500
    SuperFleXxX: posts small blind 10000
    el_rage: posts big blind 20000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to mogoxx [X X]
    gagdan80: folds
    hunde: folds
    eduardhun: folds
    niñocalavera: folds
    El Cid926: folds
    mogoxx: raises 28000 to 48000
    ambrose89: folds
    SuperFleXxX: raises 289880 to 337880 and is all-in
    el_rage: folds
    mogoxx: ????

    1.) what is his shoving range from the SB with 17bbs?

    2.) what is my calling range here with 32bbs vs his shoving range, and WHY? i'm trying to get some insight into specifically WHY i should be calling here with certain hands, and why others should be folded... ty p5s!
  2. winkie23 winkie23 is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 2:54pm) in reply to mogoxx

    I'd probably opr the guy to get a sense of how competent he is, but I might assume a range of A10s, AJo+, KQ and any pairs 77 or better? Maybe something like that is reasonable, then just stove your hand vs. that range (or whatever range you decide) and see if you have the right % to call.
  3. mcandrews3rd mcandrews3rd is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 3:05pm) in reply to winkie23

    these spots really help to know your player, without reads or seeing him shove a similar stack before i might tighten up

    sumthing like 99+ aj or aq+

    however if he is competent or been re shoving this sort of stack before calling 77+ a10o+ if hes really really agro mayb kq too

    honestly expect any pair most broadway hands and sum weaker aces, plus obv the top of his range to be re shoving here
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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 3:59pm) in reply to mcandrews3rd

    He could shove any pr, ATs+, maybe tighter? I only think this tight on the Broadway cards because you're an early pos raisor and he could just fold and be on the button with 17BB in a far better pos to shove hands.

    Given that you need a good hand to call with - TT+, AK, but i'm not very good in these sort of spots. I just think he's not playing into you here light, I can't think of a reason to.
    Edited By: daughton Apr 11th, 2011 at 04:00 PM
  5. mogoxx mogoxx is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 5:20pm) in reply to daughton

    Ty for the initial responses...

    Can anybody show me some numbers to support different ranges (ie. if he shoves light, what can I call with? & if he shoves tight, what can I call with?)
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  6. winkie23 winkie23 is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 7:21pm) in reply to mogoxx

    I can't run it right now, but just download pokerstove if you don't have it and it's pretty easy to put in any range you'd like for the villain and compare your actual hand's equity vs. that range...
  7. mogoxx mogoxx is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 9:03pm) in reply to winkie23

    ya I'm at work right now and don't have access to it.... figured somebody could help with the dirty work so I could see it and think about it while I waste time until the day is over...
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  8. ukaliks ukaliks is offline

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    Apr 11th, 2011 (4/11/2011 10:21pm) in reply to mogoxx

    Just checked him out on OPR and he seems pretty decent. I'd tighten up and call w/ QQ+/AQs/AKo. But i'm a nit.
  9. wilmont wilmont is offline

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    Apr 12th, 2011 (4/12/2011 3:12am) in reply to ukaliks

    Without a read on him and this deep hard to imagine he is a total donk. to risk half my stack this deep, i would have to have a premium to call here. AQs or better and probably 1010 or better. Maybe a little nitty though but this deep prefer that I am the one shoving first.
  10. Suitedace87 Suitedace87 is offline

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    Apr 12th, 2011 (4/12/2011 3:58am) in reply to ukaliks

     
    Originally Posted by ukaliks View Post

    Just checked him out on OPR and he seems pretty decent. I'd tighten up and call w/ QQ+/AQs/AKo. But i'm a nit.

    this would make me call wider since he knows its a good shove spot, i would probably have OPR'd him and called AT+ and 77+ and possible even kqs
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