Puke spot with KK in a turbo SNG ( EDITED WITH RESULTS)

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  1. Jungcabar Jungcabar is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:06pm)

    PokerStars Game #28467383233: Tournament #165613377, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2009/05/21 15:54:40 PT [2009/05/21 18:54:40 ET]
    Table '165613377 2' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
    Seat 1: jung_32 (1500 in chips)
    Seat 2: leonco1969 (1140 in chips)
    Seat 3: Iaceu (1280 in chips)
    Seat 4: JJ2TakeAway (1270 in chips)
    Seat 5: DEBAZER (1480 in chips)
    Seat 6: J-Star2009 (1000 in chips)
    Seat 7: ACasamali (1500 in chips)
    Seat 8: sascha2 (2300 in chips)
    Seat 9: CrimsonTide1 (2030 in chips)
    DEBAZER: posts small blind 10
    J-Star2009: posts big blind 20
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to jung_32 [Ks Kc]
    ACasamali: folds
    sascha2: raises 20 to 40
    CrimsonTide1: calls 40
    jung_32: raises 180 to 220
    leonco1969: folds
    Iaceu: folds
    JJ2TakeAway: folds
    DEBAZER: folds
    J-Star2009: raises 780 to 1000 and is all-in
    sascha2: folds
    CrimsonTide1: raises 820 to 1820
    jung_32: calls 1280 and is all-in
    Uncalled bet (320) returned to CrimsonTide1
    *** FLOP *** [Js Qc 8d]
    *** TURN *** [Js Qc 8d] [Jd]
    *** RIVER *** [Js Qc 8d Jd] [2d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    CrimsonTide1: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
    jung_32: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
    CrimsonTide1 collected 1000 from side pot
    J-Star2009: shows [9c Qh] (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
    jung_32 is sitting out
    CrimsonTide1 collected 3050 from main pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 4050 Main pot 3050. Side pot 1000. | Rake 0
    Board [Js Qc 8d Jd 2d]
    Seat 1: jung_32 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Jacks
    Seat 2: leonco1969 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: Iaceu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: JJ2TakeAway (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: DEBAZER (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: J-Star2009 (big blind) showed [9c Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Jacks
    Seat 7: ACasamali folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: sascha2 folded before Flop
    Seat 9: CrimsonTide1 showed [As Ah] and won (4050) with two pair, Aces and Jacks

    i really don't think i beat anything here , but can i really fold?

    i know i cant fold! this is just too good of a hand for this type of SNG. But this is exactly what i said to myself when it happened: " he has AA, but i call".

    no its not result oriented but i really put him on AA. i would have been more surprised to see anything but AA here. I think it is interesting however, that math and odds will tell you to get it in no matter what, even when you think you are toast. thanks for the replies good and bad.
  2. H@BB@KUK H@BB@KUK is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:09pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    NEVER FOLD HERE, NEVER, EVER, EVER EVERERRRERERERERE
  3. Appst08 Appst08 is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:09pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    you beat a lot in a 6$ sng

    never fold KK here
     
  4. Jungcabar Jungcabar is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:10pm) in reply to Appst08

    i understand that this is a $6 SNG but the line he took can only be on hand
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:10pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    Any info on how CrimsonTide has +500 on his stack and J-Star has -500?

    There isn't a chance in hell I'm folding KK in a $6.50 turbo SnG. Get it in.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:14pm) in reply to JRoth15

    i mean think about what he did. he flat called a raise then re-raised a re-re-raise.
    I bet this will be AA 75% of the time.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:15pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    This isnt a puke spot at all. Easy call imo
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:16pm) in reply to Jungcabar

     
    Originally Posted by Jungcabar View Post

    i mean think about what he did. he flat called a raise then re-raised a re-re-raise.
    I bet this will be AA 75% of the time.

    correct me if i'm wrong, but if it's AA 75% of the time, it's a call
     
  9. adam_mc adam_mc is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:16pm) in reply to simpledude

    His line is pocket cronks and only pocket cronks. ez lay down.

    KINGS ARE JUST ONE PAIR!
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:17pm) in reply to Jungcabar

     
    Originally Posted by Jungcabar View Post

    i mean think about what he did. he flat called a raise then re-raised a re-re-raise.
    I bet this will be AA 75% of the time.

    And he could be iso'ing the shover w/ AK, 99-KK, and a billion other hands. It's a $6.50 turbo--I've played the level before.

    Sounds like you ran into AA...gg, ul, etc.

    Fire another one up, and if this spot comes up again, shove/call all-in.
  11. MyJobisYou MyJobisYou is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:18pm) in reply to simpledude

    Its 6$. Call and close the table when his AA/AKs wins. It's 6$.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:19pm) in reply to JRoth15

    never fold KK in a $6 turbo
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:21pm) in reply to inissint

    how is that such an auto call?? knowing that only 25% of the time i will be ahead makes it very -EV right?
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:22pm) in reply to Jungcabar

     
    Originally Posted by Jungcabar View Post

    i mean think about what he did. he flat called a raise then re-raised a re-re-raise.
    I bet this will be AA 75% of the time.

    Lol, yea thats what that means. Seriously though. Its a $6 SNG, it is much more likely that a flat call then a reraise is 66 than AA
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:25pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    by the way the money is not the problem. im a just trying to make the right play no matter what level it is. and to me i just feel like i am losing this spot way more than winning
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:45pm) in reply to Jungcabar

     
    Originally Posted by Jungcabar View Post

    $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20)


    Dealt to jung_32 [Ks Kc]

    i really don't think i beat anything here , but can i really fold?

    No you cant fold!
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  17. charbarj41 charbarj41 is offline

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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:51pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    This is a call in everything under 225
     
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:53pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    This is a call. However me thinks you are thinking in results oriented terms meaning it has to be AA, it can only be AA, no other hand but AA could possibly be played that way.Its a call and load up another when it hits.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 8:54pm) in reply to charbarj41

     
    Originally Posted by charbarj41 View Post

    This is a call in everything under 225

    This.

    This isnt even a close spot at all, you haz kings go go go.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 9:01pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    sorry man i read the title and laughed, there is no such thing (preflop at least).

     
    Originally Posted by Jungcabar View Post

    i understand that this is a $6 SNG but the line he took can only be on(e) hand

    LOL seriously?? he flatted a min raised, then tried to iso on the shorty. while his range may include a lot of PPs, it certainly isnt just one of them.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 9:10pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    lol @ $6, turbo sng, KK, puke spot ever being used in the same sentence.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 9:12pm) in reply to Jungcabar

    puke spot?

    you throw up a lot when you have it?

    SHOVE.

    maybe aa this time. ak aq jj next 3 times.
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    May 21st, 2009 (5/21/2009 9:12pm) in reply to Slowta

     
    Originally Posted by Slowta View Post

    puke spot?

    you throw up a lot when you have it?

    SHOVE.

    maybe aa this time. ak aq qq next 3 times.

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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 12:02am) in reply to Jungcabar

    theres no such thing as a puke spot with kk in a turbo sng. never fold kk pf in a sng ever ever ever unless its a satty on the bubble or something stupid
     
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 12:04am) in reply to Jungcabar

    just play so many tables that you can barely keep up than its a pretty easy decision and you wont even care when you lose.
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 12:14am) in reply to Jungcabar

    Villain doesn't have AA, he has pocket cronks, you're fucked
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 12:20am) in reply to andressoprano

    Fold he has 00, nld.
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 12:27am) in reply to Jungcabar

    snap call, triple up. imo
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 12:28am) in reply to Jungcabar

    Again, in a $6 sng this guy could have anything!
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    May 22nd, 2009 (5/22/2009 1:56am) in reply to Jungcabar

     
    Originally Posted by Jungcabar View Post

    i mean think about what he did. he flat called a raise then re-raised a re-re-raise.
    I bet this will be AA 75% of the time.

    62.3255252% of statistics are made up on the spot.................
     
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