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  1. worldgoround worldgoround is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 10:27am)

    hello everyone, i have some trouble with my push-or-fold decisions in sngs.

    after my sessions, i alsways check my decisions with the sng-wizard. it seems i push too lose. here an example in which the wizard tells me to fold. i have 8 bb left and utg calls. with my 44 i would normally push here, even though its a very low pair. too lose? i would be thankful for your opinions.

    ps:the limper has about 40% vp$ip

    Full Tilt Poker Game #17432173729: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (131092607), Table 1 - 50/100 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:05:16 ET - 2010/01/08
    Seat 1: Nodry (1,745)
    Seat 2: bobberdown145 (1,965)
    Seat 4: Mikelev (3,885)
    Seat 5: romanix45 (1,880)
    Seat 7: PRAZDNIKA (3,195)
    Seat 9: Joe404 (830)
    bobberdown145 posts the small blind of 50
    Mikelev posts the big blind of 100
    The button is in seat #1
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Joe404 [4h 4s]
    romanix45 calls 100
    PRAZDNIKA folds
    Joe404 has 15 seconds left to act
    Joe404 raises to 830, and is all in
    Nodry folds
    bobberdown145 folds
    Mikelev folds
    romanix45 calls 730
    Joe404 shows [4h 4s]
    romanix45 shows [Qs Jh]
    *** FLOP *** [3h Kd 6c]
    *** TURN *** [3h Kd 6c] [Ac]
    *** RIVER *** [3h Kd 6c Ac] [Qd]
    Joe404 shows a pair of Fours
    romanix45 shows a pair of Queens
    romanix45 wins the pot (1,810) with a pair of Queens
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1,810 | Rake 0
    Board: [3h Kd 6c Ac Qd]
    Seat 1: Nodry (button) didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 2: bobberdown145 (small blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 4: Mikelev (big blind) folded before the Flop
    Seat 5: romanix45 showed [Qs Jh] and won (1,810) with a pair of Queens
    Seat 7: PRAZDNIKA didn't bet (folded)
    Seat 9: Joe404 showed [4h 4s] and lost with a pair of Fours
  2. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 10:34am) in reply to worldgoround

    i´m not that experience with sng, playing more mtt but anyways i shove here 100% of the time and take the risk of fliping since with 8bb we def need some chips soon...

    couldn´t see how we could fold a pp with 8bb tough...
     
  3. worldgoround worldgoround is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 10:40am) in reply to worldgoround

    well matze YOU surely push here, as you push almost any two with about 15 bb left
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  4. kngsup kngsup is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 10:40am) in reply to worldgoround

    Don't push to lose...push to win....that's your problem.
  5. matze_widi matze_widi is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 10:43am) in reply to worldgoround

     
    Originally Posted by worldgoround View Post

    well matze YOU surely push here, as you push almost any two with about 15 bb left

    i certainly push sometimes very loose but anyway we can´t fold here can we??
    i mean 8bb we need to double up or reg for a new one..
     
  6. Juanda 87 Juanda 87 is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 10:44am) in reply to worldgoround

    I am assuming this to be a 9 man single table tourney. If romanix folds you're shoving any pair, but after his limp utg, he folds very few hands in his range to your shove. I'm folding here unless I think he is really splashing around. 44 seems thin, considering your stack size and the fold equity on a shove.
  7. saukendar saukendar is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 11:30am) in reply to worldgoround

    Your open shove range would be: 28.2%, 22+ A2s+ A7o+ A5o-A4o K7s+ KTo+ Q8s+ QTo+ J8s+ JTo T8s+ 98s 87s

    Your call range for his open shove would be: 4.2%, 99+ AQs+ AKo

    He didn't open shove but he isn't folding your shove much, I wouldn't open up a re-shove range here much past: 10.9%, 55+ A8s+ A9o+ and maybe not that wide.

    ICM ftw - my 2 cents
  8. Drewch Drewch is offline

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    Jan 8th, 2010 (1/8/2010 11:31am) in reply to kngsup

     
    Originally Posted by kngsup View Post

    Don't push to lose...push to win....that's your problem.

    LOL
     
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