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  1. No real reads on these guys, what would you do here with QQ?

    pokerstars Game #22899541835: Tournament #125328269, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (1000/2000) - 2008/12/14 0:46:16 ET
    Table '125328269 21' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: adamhen111 (21165 in chips)
    Seat 2: timfbmx (49845 in chips)
    Seat 4: LoadtheToad (7327 in chips)
    Seat 5: alfvill (65300 in chips)
    Seat 6: carpmentor (27072 in chips)
    Seat 7: wildboar (34932 in chips)
    Seat 8: x fullmagai (28404 in chips)
    Seat 9: boxers1 (15874 in chips)
    adamhen111: posts the ante 250
    timfbmx: posts the ante 250
    LoadtheToad: posts the ante 250
    alfvill: posts the ante 250
    carpmentor: posts the ante 250
    wildboar: posts the ante 250
    x fullmagai: posts the ante 250
    boxers1: posts the ante 250
    adamhen111: posts small blind 1000
    timfbmx: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to timfbmx [Qs Qh]
    LoadtheToad: folds
    dthorne04 is connected
    alfvill: folds
    carpmentor: raises 3200 to 5200
    wildboar: folds
    x fullmagai: raises 22954 to 28154 and is all-in
    boxers1: folds
    adamhen111: calls 19915 and is all-in
    timfbmx: ?????

    Results to follow....
  2. Wow that is an interesting spot. Probably reading this wrong, but it looks like calling about 30k to win 60k with QQ and if you lose you have 10 BB's left. I am usually calling and gambling

    Oh also, if you are ahead here you are probably way ahead as they are probably sharing cards
     
  3.  
    Originally Posted by LioneeR View Post

    Wow that is an interesting spot. Probably reading this wrong, but it looks like calling about 30k to win 60k with QQ and if you lose you have 10 BB's left. I am usually calling and gambling

    Oh also, if you are ahead here you are probably way ahead as they are probably sharing cards

    So basically your saying that they are mostly likely colluding???????? Did I get that right?
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  4. by sharing cards i meant that first open has Ax Kx type hand, shover might have 1010 or AK shortish stack calling off probably has a similar range.

    HOpe that makes sense, but they are sharing outs...maybe i should have said that
     
  5. not a tough spot, an easy call.
     
  6. ok so far everyone is saying call.... anyone else ???
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  7. folding this would be downright dreadful if you had been paying attention to the table at all (i was at your table for awhile in this after this hand)
  8.  
    Originally Posted by donkthorne04 View Post

    folding this would be downright dreadful if you had been paying attention to the table at all (i was at your table for awhile in this after this hand)

    Well i was watching UFC on TV so no i wasnt paying attention lol
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  9. if by tough you mean easy...i agree.
  10. very easy call
     
  11. snap
     
  12. I hate you all....

    I so need to retire after this hand...I play way to nitty sometimes

    Not to mention this is the only time I can remember folding QQ pre-flop... EVER

    Seriously please flame me, I would of been the OVERWELMING chip leader

    BJKGBJTGBKJAFGKJANFKLGNKLAGNGFNJFKJ fuck me runnin

    pokerstars Game #22899541835: Tournament #125328269, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (1000/2000) - 2008/12/14 0:46:16 ET
    Table '125328269 21' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: adamhen111 (21165 in chips)
    Seat 2: timfbmx (49845 in chips)
    Seat 4: LoadtheToad (7327 in chips)
    Seat 5: alfvill (65300 in chips)
    Seat 6: carpmentor (27072 in chips)
    Seat 7: wildboar (34932 in chips)
    Seat 8: x fullmagai (28404 in chips)
    Seat 9: boxers1 (15874 in chips)
    adamhen111: posts the ante 250
    timfbmx: posts the ante 250
    LoadtheToad: posts the ante 250
    alfvill: posts the ante 250
    carpmentor: posts the ante 250
    wildboar: posts the ante 250
    x fullmagai: posts the ante 250
    boxers1: posts the ante 250
    adamhen111: posts small blind 1000
    timfbmx: posts big blind 2000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to timfbmx [Qs Qh]
    LoadtheToad: folds
    dthorne04 is connected
    alfvill: folds
    carpmentor: raises 3200 to 5200
    wildboar: folds
    x fullmagai: raises 22954 to 28154 and is all-in
    boxers1: folds
    adamhen111: calls 19915 and is all-in
    timfbmx: folds
    carpmentor: folds
    Uncalled bet (7239) returned to x fullmagai
    *** FLOP *** [3c 4d Qd]
    *** TURN *** [3c 4d Qd] [8h]
    *** RIVER *** [3c 4d Qd 8h] [7c]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    adamhen111: shows [Js Jc] (a pair of Jacks)
    x fullmagai: shows [Ah Ts] (high card Ace)
    adamhen111 collected 51030 from pot
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 51030 | Rake 0
    Board [3c 4d Qd 8h 7c]
    Seat 1: adamhen111 (small blind) showed [Js Jc] and won (51030) with a pair of Jacks
    Seat 2: timfbmx (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 4: LoadtheToad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: alfvill folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: carpmentor folded before Flop
    Seat 7: wildboar folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: x fullmagai showed [Ah Ts] and lost with high card Ace
    Seat 9: boxers1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  13. and heres the hand I busted out with, just for shits n giggles...

    pokerstars Game #22899995017: Tournament #125328269, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (1500/3000) - 2008/12/14 1:13:16 ET
    Table '125328269 21' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
    Seat 1: adamhen111 (43411 in chips)
    Seat 2: timfbmx (35556 in chips)
    Seat 3: dthorne04 (90200 in chips)
    Seat 4: LoadtheToad (24829 in chips)
    Seat 5: alfvill (29222 in chips)
    Seat 6: carpmentor (67676 in chips)
    Seat 7: jjfivemm (145775 in chips)
    Seat 8: konphuzed (46742 in chips)
    Seat 9: bobbythedon1 (37685 in chips)
    adamhen111: posts the ante 375
    timfbmx: posts the ante 375
    dthorne04: posts the ante 375
    LoadtheToad: posts the ante 375
    alfvill: posts the ante 375
    carpmentor: posts the ante 375
    jjfivemm: posts the ante 375
    konphuzed: posts the ante 375
    bobbythedon1: posts the ante 375
    adamhen111: posts small blind 1500
    timfbmx: posts big blind 3000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to timfbmx [Tc Th]
    dthorne04: folds
    LoadtheToad: folds
    alfvill: calls 3000
    carpmentor: raises 64301 to 67301 and is all-in
    jjfivemm: folds
    konphuzed: folds
    bobbythedon1: folds
    adamhen111: folds
    timfbmx: calls 32181 and is all-in
    alfvill: folds
    Uncalled bet (32120) returned to carpmentor
    *** FLOP *** [9s Qh 8h]
    *** TURN *** [9s Qh 8h] [Qd]
    *** RIVER *** [9s Qh 8h Qd] [3d]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    timfbmx: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Queens and Tens)
    carpmentor: shows [9d 9h] (a full house, Nines full of Queens)
    carpmentor collected 78237 from pot
    timfbmx [observer] said, "i love this game"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 78237 | Rake 0
    Board [9s Qh 8h Qd 3d]
    Seat 1: adamhen111 (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 2: timfbmx (big blind) showed [Tc Th] and lost with two pair, Queens and Tens
    Seat 3: dthorne04 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: LoadtheToad folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 5: alfvill folded before Flop
    Seat 6: carpmentor showed [9d 9h] and won (78237) with a full house, Nines full of Queens
    Seat 7: jjfivemm folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 8: konphuzed folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 9: bobbythedon1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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  14. LOLOLOL how in the hell do you ever fold there??
  15.  
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    LOLOLOL how in the hell do you ever fold there??

    trying to be a hero/playing with scared money???

    I dunno my stomach hurts lol
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  16.  
    Originally Posted by NUTZREALHUGE View Post

    LOLOLOL how in the hell do you ever fold there??

    alright every1 relax...it's fucking soccer.

    folding here isn't the end of the world, when i first read this post i told myself that i'd shove but i def wouldn't love it- of course it suddenly becomes painfully obvious to every1 after results are posted ;/
  17. sorry, why is this an insta call??

    no info, early position raise, a re-raise from mid position, another guy calls and the first raiser is still to act??

    on balance i do call here, but I probably fold JJ and I fold QQ if I think that a couple of those guys are tight players.
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  18.  
    Originally Posted by mathclub View Post

    sorry, why is this an insta call??

    no info, early position raise, a re-raise from mid position, another guy calls and the first raiser is still to act??

    on balance i do call here, but I probably fold JJ and I fold QQ if I think that a couple of those guys are tight players.

    Thanks man... Now I don't feel AS dumb.... but holy fuck one of the worst folds ive ever made in my life. I'm done trying to be a hero
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  19.  
    Originally Posted by mathclub View Post

    sorry, why is this an insta call??

    no info, early position raise, a re-raise from mid position, another guy calls and the first raiser is still to act??

    on balance i do call here, but I probably fold JJ and I fold QQ if I think that a couple of those guys are tight players.

    wow really mathclub?? i think its an insta because of how short stacked everyone is. we got a 144bb reshover whos range is huge and a 10bb call. i get it in happilly here with atleast jj+ and AK against randoms. if i have reads or HUD info on the players that is favorable then my range gets bigger
     

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