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QQ faced with all in shove pre-flop first hand of fifty/fifty

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  1. nemmylocks nemmylocks is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 12:27am)

    This was literally my first hand of the tourney so 3K stack with 10/20 blinds. For some reason all of my hand histories got deleted so Ill just post what happened.

    Hero (utg + 1) opens to 60
    2 callers behind
    villain 3bets to 200 from the SB
    hero raises to 600
    fold,fold, villain shoves
    hero???

    No reads obviously so would have to go with default play here. I am never folding this but wondering if some of the better MTTers would. My thinking is his range is JJ-AA,AKo,AKs which gives me the right odds to call. Thoughts?
  2. julesdAA julesdAA is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 1:41am) in reply to nemmylocks

    Get it in!
     
  3. Poker Orifice Poker Orifice is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 4:24am) in reply to julesdAA

    Yah I'm pretty sure it's going in but not real happy about it (although... would AA KK 5bet shove here?.. maybe seeing as they'll assume you're never folding.... the shove here w AA would also add a bit of deception because it would appear more like AK.
  4. rivverkiller rivverkiller is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 5:06am) in reply to Poker Orifice

    nice bluff
     
  5. gkhalo gkhalo is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 3:10pm) in reply to rivverkiller

    I think its a call.

    You've already committed a fifth of your stack.

    What did you do?
  6. nemmylocks nemmylocks is offline

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    Jul 14th, 2010 (7/14/2010 3:18pm) in reply to gkhalo

    I called, he flipped over AKo and spiked a K on the turn, Im never folding there unless villain is ridiculously nitty. I do think JJ would have been quite a tougher decision though.

    And I do think AA,KK is shoving here especially this early on, people are going to play more straightforward and in his eyes it had to look like im never folding.
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  7. gkhalo gkhalo is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 12:36am) in reply to nemmylocks

    Unlucky man.

    Its the way it goes.
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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 1:26am) in reply to nemmylocks

     
    Originally Posted by nemmylocks View Post

    I called, he flipped over AKo and spiked a K on the turn, Im never folding there unless villain is ridiculously nitty. I do think JJ would have been quite a tougher decision though.

    And I do think AA,KK is shoving here especially this early on, people are going to play more straightforward and in his eyes it had to look like im never folding.

    I'm not folding QQ here in the 50-50... pretty easy jam. JJ would be an easy call of his 3b - no need to 4 bet JJ in this spot.
  9. nemmylocks nemmylocks is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 2:08am) in reply to hiroshi_87

    pretty much exactly what i was thinking
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  10. hiroshi_87 hiroshi_87 is offline

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    Jul 15th, 2010 (7/15/2010 3:30am) in reply to nemmylocks

    http://www.pocketfives.com/f7/qq-ear...-level-564302/

    I had a similar hand from the 50-50... not the same, but close. Don't think I could ever fold QQ in the 50-50 vs a random after seeing the villain show up with ATs, 4 bet shoving 1st level.
    Edited By: hiroshi_87 Jul 15th, 2010 at 03:39 AM
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