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  1. Newspaperman Newspaperman is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2010 (9/4/2010 6:39pm)

    Ok with our stacks sizes and no reads on villian, how to proceed here?

    pokerstars Game #49124327353: Tournament #328010376, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (75/150) - 2010/09/04 10:29:00 PT [2010/09/04 13:29:00 ET]
    Table '328010376 185' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
    Seat 1: D S Craven (10255 in chips)
    Seat 2: pokergrl55 (17905 in chips)
    Seat 3: brainpleaser (2920 in chips)
    Seat 4: nascap (9055 in chips)
    Seat 5: IVYYY NO1 (2375 in chips)
    Seat 6: GrihanSTU (3840 in chips)
    Seat 7: Loleinar (5005 in chips)
    Seat 8: agent_kmv (1930 in chips)
    Seat 9: newspaperman (5395 in chips)
    D S Craven: posts the ante 20
    pokergrl55: posts the ante 20
    brainpleaser: posts the ante 20
    nascap: posts the ante 20
    IVYYY NO1: posts the ante 20
    GrihanSTU: posts the ante 20
    Loleinar: posts the ante 20
    agent_kmv: posts the ante 20
    newspaperman: posts the ante 20
    GrihanSTU: posts small blind 75
    Loleinar: posts big blind 150
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to newspaperman [Qc Qh]
    agent_kmv: folds
    newspaperman: raises 300 to 450
    D S Craven: raises 1050 to 1500
  2. JLucky34 JLucky34 is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2010 (9/4/2010 6:41pm) in reply to Newspaperman

    well you sure as hell don't fold, and you sure as hell don't call

    that leaves...
  3. AApoker AApoker is offline

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    Sep 4th, 2010 (9/4/2010 6:56pm) in reply to JLucky34

    This is a situation where I would wager all of my remaining chips.
     
  4. catdoggin catdoggin is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 12:47am) in reply to AApoker

    Same as 2 responses above - shove and hold pls.
  5. CJDeman CJDeman is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 12:50am) in reply to catdoggin

    I would definitely convince myself his bet size was AK and jam.
     
  6. catdoggin catdoggin is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 1:03am) in reply to CJDeman

     
    Originally Posted by CJDeman View Post

    I would definitely convince myself his bet size was AK and jam.

    I agree this has to be a large part of the villians range here (hence my comment "hold pls"). I also see alot of prs that did not want to see the flop - with luck he flips over 88 - JJ (often TT or JJ) but even a small pr would not surprise - he is likely using his stack here to intimidate. If he has an overpr unlucky, gg.

    Sometimes in the villians position here if I think the other player will not be able to fold (that is I have put him on AQ+, JJ+) I will donk shove a deep stack with AA here just to mix things up - it is surprising if u pick ur player well how often this gets paid off particularly at this level - obviously not related to this situ but just a comment
    Edited By: catdoggin Sep 5th, 2010 at 01:08 AM
  7. l3iRdMaN l3iRdMaN is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 2:04am) in reply to catdoggin

    shove and hope it holds
     
  8. youngcash youngcash is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 2:16am) in reply to l3iRdMaN

    shove, he flips AA, GG
  9. wes_mc wes_mc is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 2:53am) in reply to Newspaperman

    With those stack sizes and no reads, with antes in play, I'd have to agree with the other posters and say shove.
     
  10. emptypockets emptypockets is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 5:02am) in reply to wes_mc

    shove. he has AA. but don't worry, you'll spike a Q on river.
  11. dmanpoker12 dmanpoker12 is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 5:05am) in reply to emptypockets

    either way your wrong here imo just shove and hope and pray
  12. hushpuckena hushpuckena is offline

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    Sep 5th, 2010 (9/5/2010 6:55am) in reply to dmanpoker12

    This is shove and high-five the monitor when you hit that beautiful queen on the river to outdraw the overpair.
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