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QQ v. KK...well played or not?

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  1. Seanallin99 Seanallin99 is offline

    Ottawa
    Canada

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    Feb 29th, 2008 (2/29/2008 4:55pm)

    Not sure if I played this well or not...not sure if I can fold that...he was new to the table, and repopped one of my raises about 5-8 hands earlier which I folded.

    Not sure if I coulda flat called the raise then re-evaluated on flop with the ace being there. Thoughts???

    pokerstars Game #15624775162: Tournament #78841771, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (2000/4000) - 2008/02/28 - 23:16:05 (ET)
    Table '78841771 256' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: schaap83 (61987 in chips)
    Seat 3: AeroJim (60999 in chips)
    Seat 4: kwokkie (69375 in chips)
    Seat 5: SJCX (70235 in chips)
    Seat 6: badboy33120 (37029 in chips)
    Seat 7: Seanallin99 (153250 in chips)
    Seat 8: Psyco_Lisa (147020 in chips)
    Seat 9: camaro001 (111715 in chips)
    schaap83: posts the ante 400
    AeroJim: posts the ante 400
    kwokkie: posts the ante 400
    SJCX: posts the ante 400
    badboy33120: posts the ante 400
    Seanallin99: posts the ante 400
    Psyco_Lisa: posts the ante 400
    camaro001: posts the ante 400
    kwokkie: posts small blind 2000
    SJCX: posts big blind 4000
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Seanallin99 [Qc Qh]
    badboy33120: folds
    Seanallin99: raises 6500 to 10500
    Psyco_Lisa: raises 25500 to 36000
    camaro001: folds
    schaap83: folds
    AeroJim: folds
    kwokkie: folds
    SJCX: folds
    Seanallin99: raises 64000 to 100000
    Psyco_Lisa: raises 46620 to 146620 and is all-in
    Seanallin99: calls 46620
    *** FLOP *** [3c 2h Ac]
    *** TURN *** [3c 2h Ac] [As]
    *** RIVER *** [3c 2h Ac As] [7h]
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Seanallin99: shows [Qc Qh] (two pair, Aces and Queens)
    Psyco_Lisa: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
    Seanallin99 said, "sigh"
    Psyco_Lisa collected 302440 from pot
    Seanallin99 said, "nh"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 302440 | Rake 0
    Board [3c 2h Ac As 7h]
    Seat 1: schaap83 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 3: AeroJim (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: kwokkie (small blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 5: SJCX (big blind) folded before Flop
    Seat 6: badboy33120 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
    Seat 7: Seanallin99 showed [Qc Qh] and lost with two pair, Aces and Queens
    Seat 8: Psyco_Lisa showed [Kd Kh] and won (302440) with two pair, Aces and Kings
    Seat 9: camaro001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
     
  2. dancindork17 dancindork17 is offline

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    Feb 29th, 2008 (2/29/2008 5:33pm) in reply to Seanallin99

    looks like it was pretty late in the tournament, i think when you reraise him and he pushes youre at best up against ak.. i would fold.. start of tourney im not folding qq pre
  3. SetTrippin SetTrippin is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2008 (3/1/2008 10:37am) in reply to Seanallin99

    imo it was your opening raise that committed you. You didnt raise very much and were probaly saying please someone reraise me in your head...than u got your wish. I know it wouldnt have made much differencwe but lets say u raise to like 14000 since you have to act in early position ( i dont like to bet smaller than 3x bb in early position because there are so many plaers still to act and if even one decides to call the other players, especially the blinds, are getting very good odds to see a flop. Than i end up in a multiway pot with no idea what cards my opponent has) i think if you raise more your not as likely to get action from other players with weak hands so this bet shows a lot of strength rather than weakness that the 2.5 x raise sometimes sends. Than if your psyco do u still just raise to 36k with pocket kings or uis the raise something like 45k to 60k? When you show extreme strength and get reraised for nearly 1/3 of your stack, U have a better read on the strength of your opponent has and maybe you can get away. I say maybe cuz it's still a very tough fold but when u raise the 2.5x bb and get reraised, it's almsot impossible to not put it all in th middle cuz of the idea that you showed weakness and maybe your opponent is trying to steal this pot. of course hes got kk sigh better luck next tyime
  4. Seanallin99 Seanallin99 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2008 (3/1/2008 10:45am) in reply to SetTrippin

    so raise big with big hands and smaller with mediocre hands?
     
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