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This is my 5th or 6th hand at this table, so no reads, though everyone knows D1rtyR1v3r so I assume its not AS important. I really can't see him doing this with anything that I beat other AK. I can't imagine that he'd actually be shoving JJ here, but myabe I'm way off. What do you do here?
pokerstars Game #25091973316: Tournament #140556372, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2009/02/18 13:34:11 PT [2009/02/18 16:34:11 ET]
Table '140556372 9' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: zacman51 (8676 in chips)
Seat 2: BentBetjent (3655 in chips)
Seat 3: D1rtyR1v3r (9380 in chips)
Seat 4: LosChief (10315 in chips)
Seat 5: hdkeisk (8055 in chips)
Seat 6: whitedan2001 (6195 in chips)
Seat 7: swagger man (7923 in chips)
Seat 8: Kalka555 (6615 in chips)
Seat 9: ChinaNina (3597 in chips)
whitedan2001: posts small blind 75
swagger man: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to zacman51 [Qd Qc]
Kalka555: folds
ChinaNina: raises 300 to 450
zacman51: raises 1005 to 1455
BentBetjent: folds
D1rtyR1v3r: raises 7925 to 9380 and is all-in
LosChief: folds
hdkeisk: folds
whitedan2001: folds
swagger man: folds
ChinaNina: folds
zacman51: ??? -
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Joined: Jul 08Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 3:54pm) in reply to zacman51
Dude it's a rebuy and holding QQ is an instant shove.
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Joined: Jul 06Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 3:58pm) in reply to Ugottook420
i guess that's my question mainly. if he does have AK is it worth calling, and what percent of the time does he have AK? I don't think he's flatting AA, or KK here, so I figure he's shoving those too since I've shown so much strength. How often does he show up with each?Originally Posted by Ugottook420
Looks like ak to me. I would snap it.
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Joined: Jul 08Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 4:02pm) in reply to zacman51
Got to pay to play...what was the result?
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Joined: Aug 06Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 4:18pm) in reply to zacman51
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^^^thisssss
Originally Posted by OnTheRail
The range looks like KK+, AK
This looks like a bad spot to snap. Over 55 BBs and no antes....It's total spew to shove JJ- here for dirtyriver. I timebank fold and hate it -
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Joined: Feb 09Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 5:15pm) in reply to CapTinBisKuiT
snap call , punch captainbiskuit in his nose when he flips ak or any pair higher 9 and spikes his set or hits his overs.Originally Posted by CapTinBisKuiT
fold, punt roommates dog, play next hand
also for the ppl saying he wouldnt do this with 99-jj u are wrong. ppl 3 bet so light nowadays this guy is playin a ton of games at the same time he looks down to jacks and he yams it in there. u honestly think dirtyriver is folding tens or jacks here ?
no hes not hes tryin to pick up the pot right then and there. -
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Joined: Feb 08Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 5:22pm) in reply to Usuallyalways
lol 2500? thatd b a sick 4 bet by Dirty.... no i think if hes 4 betting here, he is jamming. Is he gonna 4-bet 1/2 is stack??? no.Originally Posted by Usuallyalways
If he 4bets to something like 2500 here, it pretty much screams KK, AA, so why wouldn't he just shove it. The shove at least induces thoughts that he has AK, and a big maybe of JJ, QQ. Therefore, possibly getting called by AK or QQ which is definitely right in your 3bet range.
Or....he has AK..
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I disagree with you...People arent 3betting light early on here. If you think so then you are mistaken. IMO stars has gotten tighter then previously. 4betting JJ or TT here would be a huge spew this early against players who arent getting out of line. Maybe im wrong, but i doubt dirtyriv is 4betting jj or tt here ever this early.
Originally Posted by SRR_420
snap call , punch captainbiskuit in his nose when he flips ak or any pair higher 9 and spikes his set or hits his overs.Originally Posted by CapTinBisKuiT
fold, punt roommates dog, play next hand
also for the ppl saying he wouldnt do this with 99-jj u are wrong. ppl 3 bet so light nowadays this guy is playin a ton of games at the same time he looks down to jacks and he yams it in there. u honestly think dirtyriver is folding tens or jacks here ?
no hes not hes tryin to pick up the pot right then and there. -
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Joined: Feb 09Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 5:25pm) in reply to ExtravaDanza
your math is wack, 2500 is 1/4 of his stack not half his stack
and to gutshutallin, u honestly think he just lays 1010 or jj here? or what?
altho i do see your point in it being early and ppl dont 3 bet as light. as for ppl nitting up on stars, i play similar tournies to u and i just dont see it. -
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Joined: Jun 06Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 5:41pm) in reply to zacman51
Call by throwing your cards on the table acting like you have the biggest nuts on the block, make sureeee not to hit the muck pile, stand up and say:
"I'm ridin on a dolphin, doin flips and shit! The dolphins splashin, gettin every-body all wet! This isn't Sea World, its as real as it gets. Im on a BoAT MoTHERFUCKER, don't you EVER FoRGET!!!"
Then pray for a Dirtyriver, which reverses the magnitude creating a Cleanriver and VAMOOOOOO ship it one timeeeee! IMO -
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Joined: Dec 08Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 5:44pm) in reply to ExtravaDanza
You EVEN READ usually's post? And use a calculator from now on please...Originally Posted by ExtravaDanza
lol 2500? thatd b a sick 4 bet by Dirty.... no i think if hes 4 betting here, he is jamming. Is he gonna 4-bet 1/2 is stack??? no.Originally Posted by Usuallyalways
If he 4bets to something like 2500 here, it pretty much screams KK, AA, so why wouldn't he just shove it. The shove at least induces thoughts that he has AK, and a big maybe of JJ, QQ. Therefore, possibly getting called by AK or QQ which is definitely right in your 3bet range.
Or....he has AK..
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you should post more, you're brilliant. And i also doubt you play tourneys similar to gtsht.
Originally Posted by SRR_420
your math is wack, 2500 is 1/4 of his stack not half his stack
and to gutshutallin, u honestly think he just lays 1010 or jj here? or what?
altho i do see your point in it being early and ppl dont 3 bet as light. as for ppl nitting up on stars, i play similar tournies to u and i just dont see it. -
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Joined: Mar 08Feb 18th, 2009 (2/18/2009 6:58pm) in reply to shanetrain22
He might have total air, and just makes a play. dont know his game.Originally Posted by shanetrain22
^^^thisssssOriginally Posted by OnTheRail
The range looks like KK+, AK
This looks like a bad spot to snap. Over 55 BBs and no antes....It's total spew to shove JJ- here for dirtyriver. I timebank fold and hate it
but if he knows the 3 better's calling range would be kk+,AK wouldnt it be
+EV to adjust and push wider.??
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