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Quantity vs Quality in sngs

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  1. WiserPenny WiserPenny is offline

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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 12:18am)

    This may have been discussed already, but here it goes anyway. I've been wondering lately which is better for an overall return; high quanity or high quality in sit n goes?

    Theory is less sit n goes you play at one time the more you can pay attention. This would indicate the quality you put into that sit n go is better.

    Other option is to play alot of tables, just say 8+ to make it easy, which in turn would drop the time you can dedicate to paying attention to each sit n go. This would indicate high quanitity but a lower quality.

    I know most people play alot of tables at once and try to squeeze out a few bucks on average. But might it be easier to increase your ROI per sit n go by decreasing the amount of sit n goes played?

    This would also likely give less stress too because not as much is going on as once.

    Thoughts?
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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 12:32am) in reply to WiserPenny

    It depends on your style of play. Are you the type that likes to note who's a donkey and who's a tightbox. Are you into outplaying your opponent or a more robotic style play where you let the cards doing the talking. If you're more into outplaying your opponents, you would obviously have to play less games but if your style is robotic (if I get XX raise to xx amount, if raised before me, reraise all in...less thinking more automatic...) then obviously the more you CAN play the better, as long as your robotic style of play is bringing in the money. I personally mix it up between the two, depending on how much time I can spend and how much money I want to win...etc.
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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 12:35am) in reply to Cliffy1013

    Machine = many tables

    Artist = few

    which do you make more at?
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  4. Vibes Vibes is offline

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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 12:50am) in reply to WiserPenny

    $p/h is all the matters.
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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 1:37am) in reply to Cliffy1013

    Great point and to add to that...

    I recently began multitabling (like 300 games of 3 tables, I know, tiny sample size, but ehh) and found that while I did not pay as much attention and try to get "reads" at the under $10 levels, my ROI has actually gone up along with my $/hr. This means one of 2 things: I did not pay as much attention at 1 table OR I am just not a good poker player. Honestly. I feel as though I went from the first player type you mentioned, trying to outplay, to the second kind, just play pushbot. 3 limpers into my BB, I have 10-15 BBs, just shove my AK, KK, QQ, JJ. Not get tricky. People will call racing AT BEST, but usually with like 99 or A10. Instant double up usually. Those times I would try to talk myself outta a big hand, that my opponent must have hit a set on the A73 board and I hold AK, now I usually just play the odds and get it in. They show A8. Sometimes they hit their set or top 2, but most of the time I am way ahead. Playing more than 1 table doesn't allow me to think too much, rather just analyze situations quickly and come to what play, at the $5 level, will usually result in the most chips added to the stack.
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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 1:44am) in reply to lainie1072

    i think you made a good point "at the $5 level"
    lower levels playing like a bot is probably the best because no one knows what they are doing so you might as well just play the odds since you cant play the people that great

    what about the medium and up buy ins?
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  7. Cliffy1013 Cliffy1013 is offline

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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 2:03am) in reply to WiserPenny

    I find with the 45 player sit n goes that even the $27 games can be done this way...robotic I mean... my success rate has varied at the $27 45 player level being robotic...I've tempted to do it with the $60 45 player games but with not nearly as much success as I'm doing with the $12 games... with anything <$20 robotic is definately without a doubt the best way to go... you're playing against people who think on the first level of... I have X. They don't care what you have, they don't even think what you could possibly have... or at least thats my opinion on the majority of those low-buyin players. When you're tossing in more then a $50 for a buyin, the majority of players try to outplay you... so robotic doesn't quite cut it.

    Maybe it's possible to play the higher buyin's robotically... just that you might have to change your robotic strategy a little bit... like instead of shoving with XX if you get raised.. maybe just flat call and if you hook anything or the board looks unthreatening then shove?
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    Jun 26th, 2007 (6/26/2007 11:16am) in reply to WiserPenny

    I will have to wait and see about the $10+ levels as I am currently not deep enough rolled to 3 or 4 table $10 SNGs comfortably. Been grinding the 1,2, and 5 dollar tournies for what seems forever and am finally on the verge of moving up to $10. But yeah, I think pushbot is the way to go at micros. I may fold hands I wouldnt have when I really analyzed plays or I may play hands I woulda folded, but bottom line, when you can think of raises/calls/folds as what will be the BEST LONG TERM +EV against the average player at the level, you can play many more low limit tournies and make much more $/hr.
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