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  1. About 40 players remaining. Villan came to the table about 10 hands before and this is his first shove. What are we calling with here vs. a 6bb shove that will cripple us if we lose?

    Full Tilt Poker Game #15281966348: Daily Double - B (110933037), Table 54 - 2000/4000 Ante 500 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:09:45 ET - 2009/10/12
    Seat 1: GolferKris (58,758)
    Seat 2: slama8 (23,816)
    Seat 4: Bhawks27 (115,770)
    Seat 6: h8theriver75 (123,668)
    Seat 7: ricfuel (120,100)
    Seat 8: Gonefishin56 (25,715)
    Seat 9: dontknownothin (156,345)
    GolferKris antes 500
    slama8 antes 500
    Bhawks27 antes 500
    h8theriver75 antes 500
    ricfuel antes 500
    Gonefishin56 antes 500
    dontknownothin antes 500
    dontknownothin posts the small blind of 2,000
    GolferKris posts the big blind of 4,000
    The button is in seat #8
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to GolferKris [X X]
    slama8 folds
    Bhawks27 folds
    h8theriver75 folds
    ricfuel folds
    Gonefishin56 raises to 25,215, and is all in
    dontknownothin folds
    GolferKris calls

    fwiw...I know I made the right call. Not worried about the results, but it got me thinking of what else I could make this call with.
  2. keeping in mind that the average player this deep in a $10FO is not shoving nearly wide enough, you still should be calling relatively wide.. you aren't exactly crippled if you lose, though u will be reduced to manch-stack-status.

    I think something like A9+ KQ, and 55+ If he has shown tendency to shove light in past i probably expand to A7s+ and QJs, but it's obv not a great spot for you... you have to make the light call here simply bc the structure of this tourney is horrible and is crapshooty at the end. You still got a shove stack w/ some FE if u lose, so I don't mind calling w/ some hands that you know you are flipping at best with.
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  3. i'm callin fairly wide there. with 13500 in the pot to call 21215 more after his shove. i know u were prolly playin a in of 10 tables so i doubt u had time to opr him but if i have time to this is a spot where i opr the guy. if hes got any kind of profit and isnt a total fish then im gonna b thinkin he knows to shove like ATC there, and adding that fact with the odds the pot is layin u.... i'm not sure i could give my exact callin range cus alot of that depends on my mood at the time lol. but i'm never folding a ace or a pair there and prolly not a halfway decent king all the way down to j10s+ sumtimes esp if the guy seems to b competent enuf to know to shove light n that spot...anyway hope u slowrolled him with 22 and won against his 42o