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  1. EuropeanHistoryX EuropeanHistoryX is offline

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    Dec 6th, 2008 (12/6/2008 2:38pm)

    Did I play wrong *********** # 1 ************** pokerstars Game #22678911901: Tournament #125292876, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/12/06 15:32:58 ET Table '125292876 15' 9-max Seat #2 is the button Seat 1: eyeno (1500 in chips) Seat 2: PrussianKing (1490 in chips) Seat 3: pmgard55 (1480 in chips) Seat 4: 1ckb1n (1500 in chips) Seat 5: aysnbs (1500 in chips) Seat 6: 6maris1 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: nc1976 (1530 in chips) Seat 8: MaTTx99x (1500 in chips) Seat 9: TunicaTerror (1500 in chips) pmgard55: posts small blind 10 1ckb1n: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PrussianKing [Qc Qh] aysnbs: calls 20 6maris1: folds nc1976: raises 240 to 260 MaTTx99x: folds TunicaTerror: folds eyeno: folds PrussianKing: calls 260 pmgard55: folds 1ckb1n: folds aysnbs: folds *** FLOP *** [2c 6c 8s] nc1976: bets 1270 and is all-in PrussianKing: calls 1230 and is all-in Uncalled bet (40) returned to nc1976 *** TURN *** [2c 6c 8s] [8d] *** RIVER *** [2c 6c 8s 8d] [Th] *** SHOW DOWN *** nc1976: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Eights) PrussianKing: shows [Qc Qh] (two pair, Queens and Eights) PrussianKing is sitting out nc1976 collected 3030 from pot *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3030 | Rake 0 Board [2c 6c 8s 8d Th] Seat 1: eyeno folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: PrussianKing (button) showed [Qc Qh] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights Seat 3: pmgard55 (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 4: 1ckb1n (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 5: aysnbs folded before Flop Seat 6: 6maris1 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: nc1976 showed [Kd Kh] and won (3030) with two pair, Kings and Eights Seat 8: MaTTx99x folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: TunicaTerror folded before Flop (didn't bet)
  2. SypsG SypsG is offline

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    Dec 8th, 2008 (12/8/2008 12:00pm) in reply to EuropeanHistoryX

    Your play was okay, except that flatting there may bait along other callers with Ax (or a squeeze) this early when there are still a lot of donks left. His 13bb bet looks like a weak bet that doesn't want action with TT-JJ, although it would be pretty stupid during the first level to defend against a pot you are trying to win 50 chips on (with that bet, he is basically saying he will risk his stack for that 50 chips in the pot)... this may have been a tricky play by him though, trying to make you think he's weak so someone with AQ or any pair might come over the top.

    I 3-bet min-raise here if I were you, and call his all in, or shove on the flop... same outcome though - nh ul, open a new game. This is what can happen with QQ+ in the first level of the tourney. That's why a lot of folks say 3x open-raise with it and it only, while the blinds are low, so you can still get away from it if the board comes drawy or AKx. There is no need to commit yourself to possibly lose all your chips this early, unless this is a STT, in which case I forget the 3-bet and insta-shove PF.

    First thing though - post your hand histories so that we can read them.
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