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  1. jbeafore jbeafore is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 10:41am)

    ok i was playing 1-2 nl on bodog last nite. I had 210. I get dealt QQ. The guy who i beat out of a decent pot previous hand was in semi early posistion. He bet(he had around 110) 10. I raised to 25, thinking he was steaming from the last pot and could have 1010 or a big ace at the best. And wanted to isolate him. The guy behind me(who had around 200) calls and then the first guy rasies all in for 78 more. I think and decide to trust my read and call, leaving me with around 108. Then the guy behind me rerasies all in. Now the pot is a little over 400 i have alittle over 100 to call. I know one of these guys has an over pair to my queens. Thus making me a 4-1 dog. I am getting the right odds to call, so i do. The intial raiser (who i thought was on tilt had AA, bad read by me) the guy behind me had KK. So AA holds and thats that. So i knew i was getting the right odds but stil it was hard to swallow. Did i make the right move or do i lay it down knowing i am beat? If i can pick the mistake that i made it was not folding after the first guy went all in. any comments are welcomed
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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 11:27am) in reply to jbeafore

    Very very tough. I am pretty sure I would have done the same thing.
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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 11:49am) in reply to jbeafore

    Ya, ya..Im a pussy, blah blah blah....I fold. What really scares me is the guy in position smooth calling. He has a raise and a reraise in front of him and he SMOOTH CALLS??!! He definitly has AA or KK...so when the other guy goes all in, I fold...not neccissarily because of the first player to act, but because of the smooth caller behind me.
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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 11:51am) in reply to jbeafore

    Hey JB , this hand is a tough one . The only mistake , and I wouldn't classify it as a mistake even , was just calling the initial raiser $78 more . At that point in the hand , you've got to know that by calling the additional raise , your committing yourself to the pot . Since you are now committed , why not go all-in yourself right there to shut out the other player . Obviously , the other player wasn't going anywhere on this one -- but in similar hands a move like this will get out the AQ's , AJ's , 66 , 55 , etc from the other player . Even though it wouldn't of worked this hand , you'll see the benefits in the long run.
    Hope this helps.
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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 3:41pm) in reply to CFH101

    thx guys i felt like it was right for a cash game but not a tourny. other perspectives are still wanted, need to see it form all angles.....thx again

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  6. dave118 dave118 is offline

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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 5:20pm) in reply to jbeafore

    If you are sure that one of them has an overpair, then you are no longer getting 4-1. Ie, if one guy has kings and the other has AQ, then you're in worse shape than that. I didn't put it in a calculator, but you have to assume even the weaker of the two has overcards. And he may hold one of your queens ....yuck.
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    Jul 13th, 2005 (7/13/2005 5:40pm) in reply to dave118

    Right ........ this is not an automatic call by any means . My point was that if you are gonna go forward with the hand .... you might as well shut out the other player ( at least the majority of the time this will accomplish that ) by moving in and trying to get heads up.
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    Jul 19th, 2005 (7/19/2005 9:33am) in reply to jbeafore

    more opinions?
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