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Do you see alot of this, cause I am getting sick of it. Comments welcome as well as constructive criticism....ty in advance.
PokerStars Game #4971040130: Tournament #24673506, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/05/18 - 00:30:40 (ET)
Table '24673506 21' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ImAFish4U (10810 in chips)
Seat 2: gank (22445 in chips)
Seat 3: ErickW23 (13378 in chips)
Seat 4: aakkari (9740 in chips)
Seat 5: koolkeith13 (38350 in chips)
Seat 6: AkuAku (2694 in chips)
Seat 7: slurp420 (8980 in chips)
Seat 8: bdubs3737 (760 in chips)
Seat 9: choose14me (11305 in chips)
ImAFish4U: posts the ante 50
gank: posts the ante 50
ErickW23: posts the ante 50
aakkari: posts the ante 50
koolkeith13: posts the ante 50
AkuAku: posts the ante 50
slurp420: posts the ante 50
bdubs3737: posts the ante 50
choose14me: posts the ante 50
ImAFish4U: posts small blind 400
gank: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gank [4h 4s]
koolkeith13 said, "sian"
ErickW23: folds
aakkari: folds
koolkeith13: folds
AkuAku: folds
slurp420: folds
aakkari said, "nh kool"
bdubs3737: folds
choose14me: calls 800 Limps on button
ImAFish4U: calls 400
koolkeith13 said, "ty"
gank: raises 10800 to 11600
choose14me: calls 10455 and is all-in
ImAFish4U: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 9s Qd]
*** TURN *** [3d 9s Qd] [3c]
gank said, "hmmmm"
*** RIVER *** [3d 9s Qd 3c] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gank: shows [4h 4s] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
choose14me: shows [Qc 9h] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
choose14me collected 23760 from pot
gank said, "I should have known you call"
gank said, "lool"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23760 | Rake 0
Board [3d 9s Qd 3c Td]
Seat 1: ImAFish4U (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: gank (big blind) showed [4h 4s] and lost with two pair, Fours and Threes
Seat 3: ErickW23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: koolkeith13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AkuAku folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: slurp420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bdubs3737 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: choose14me (button) showed [Qc 9h] and won (23760) with two pair, Queens and Nines -
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Joined: Feb 05May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 1:41am) in reply to JohnnyBax
Obv Bax, Always Be Closing!
Check this one out as well, whats with Q high and people calling off their stack against me?
PokerStars Game #4971121991: Tournament #24673506, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/05/18 - 00:38:57 (ET)
Table '24673506 21' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ImAFish4U (11460 in chips)
Seat 2: gank (8690 in chips)
Seat 3: ErickW23 (9158 in chips)
Seat 4: aakkari (18580 in chips)
Seat 5: mmcardoulis (9289 in chips)
Seat 6: orizin (18906 in chips)
Seat 7: slurp420 (9280 in chips)
Seat 9: choose14me (21544 in chips)
ImAFish4U: posts the ante 50
gank: posts the ante 50
ErickW23: posts the ante 50
aakkari: posts the ante 50
mmcardoulis: posts the ante 50
orizin: posts the ante 50
slurp420: posts the ante 50
choose14me: posts the ante 50
aakkari: posts small blind 400
mmcardoulis: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gank [Qh As]
orizin: folds
slurp420: folds
choose14me: folds
ImAFish4U: raises 1600 to 2400
gank: raises 6240 to 8640 and is all-in
ErickW23: folds
aakkari: folds
mmcardoulis: folds
ImAFish4U: calls 6240
ErickW23 said, "A4 diamonds"
*** FLOP *** [9c 2d Jc]
*** TURN *** [9c 2d Jc] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [9c 2d Jc Th] [5h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ImAFish4U: shows [Qs 9s] (a pair of Nines)
gank: shows [Qh As] (high card Ace)
aakkari said, "fish fish!!"
gank said, "I gg"
ImAFish4U collected 18880 from pot
FerrariBoy is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18880 | Rake 0
Board [9c 2d Jc Th 5h]
Seat 1: ImAFish4U showed [Qs 9s] and won (18880) with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: gank showed [Qh As] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: ErickW23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: aakkari (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: mmcardoulis (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: orizin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: slurp420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: choose14me folded before Flop (didn't bet)
ImAFish4U: my read was pray he has AK
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Joined: May 05May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 1:42am) in reply to gank
I feel ya gank. Same shit happened to me for huge pot on the bubble of the 55r this afternoon....thought i broke my hand when i punched the desk lol
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Joined: Feb 06May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 1:43am) in reply to gank
this is obviously disgusting but why is this addressed to ranked players. I mean i think 96 percent of the ppl on this site know that that play is horrendous. and im quite confident it doesnt only happen to ranked players.
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Joined: Feb 05May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 1:45am) in reply to mr. menlo
Because I am assuming that this happens much more to the top players as people try to "take them out" at all costs, but it would not be the first time I would be wrong, but that is why I asked them.
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Welcome to the world of not top 10 players............ Sry bro sick stuff
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Joined: Feb 06May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 1:49am) in reply to gank
gank, you may be right that ranking may have something to do with it, but i think it has a lot more to do with the fact that the guy is a flat out donkey, i mean no decent player is gonna limp call an all in with q9 no matter who you are.
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Joined: Jan 05May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 1:57am) in reply to mr. menlo
As much as I hate to admit it he is right on this one. You benefit from it too but people make plays because of who you are and relatively we are a band of no ones. Hell, I am not even ranked and people want to beat me.
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no disrespect gank, but you are angered at q9 o/s calls to knock you out....i will never be ranked, sorry for the reply
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The ideal situation in NL tourneys is to pick up chips with no showdowns, plus unless I have QQ KK or AA, I am probably better off just getting the chips that are already in the flop then running it out 1000 times(long term speak), since my expectation for the hand would probably less then just winning it there.
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Joined: Feb 06May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 2:16am) in reply to jeffbeesdat
No, I think he is looking for a low risk confrontation free hand. He just wants the chips already in the middle. There are many worse situations than a race, but I don't think thats what he was looking for.
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Gank no offense to you but I could really care less if i knock you, bax, emptyseat or joechicago out of a tourney. After you pushed I had to figure out if I had pot odds. Honestly I do beleive I am pretty much pot committed here I figure at worst I am on the fence on this one. I have to to call 6k to win a 12k plus pot. You have a wide range of hands cause like me you want to win and your not going to win by not takeing risks. If ranked player would of made this call they would be praised.
Oh by the way currently I am in first w/ 120k and 2nd has 65k with 18 left.
I do not consider myself a top internet player and I know I do make mistakes were all here to learn. Maybe this was one of those, maybe your just heated and not looking at the situatuion as a whole. -
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Joined: Jan 05May 18th, 2006 (5/18/2006 2:29am) in reply to gank
We had a thread in hand advice and "Is calling the new folding?". It used to be you won tournaments without showdowns. Now people are calling more and possibly are correct in doing so and the odds are doing the work, thereby, creating more variance.
I know for myself I look for more reasons to call then I used to and I can say that even when I was playing with you back in the day you were the guy with the target on his back and I was willing to take a bit of the worst of it to take you out. -
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Well this is an obvious instance where Gank does not want to get called, even with a playable hand and a coinflip situation, but my comments were pointed toward Gank's remark that ranked players get called with a wider range of hands because the average Joe needs a story for his home game... (Gank, please correct me if I misinterpreted your remarks ). All I am saying here, is this. If these same players are willing to call this raise with mediocre hands, don't you make alot of money by them calling when you have premium hands?
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This is like Dannenman bluffing Lederer out of that one pot. Everyone wants to knock out or bluff the better/best players. Should be making you money in the long run though
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I dont have any comment on these specific hands but I do feel like people play back at me alot because I'm ranked or whatever. I also have a semi-reckless image and I think that has alot to do with it. I've just adjusted, keep repopping me with K2o plz....
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this is called the whitealroker button limp allin call. standard really. you're stealing so he's gonna look you up
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*I did not read the thread, just the orig post*
ewww. yes whom ever this person was he / she does not appear to make sense with this call--to say the least.
(unless, unbeknown to me and KNOWn to your opp is that the ONLY hand you all in with in that situation is 88 and under.)
and ouch. q &*&^ing 9.
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Gank,
Ya can't get rid of em lately...seem they r calling more and more...My favorite is when someone bets a 1000/1500 preflop and you raise them 10/12k and they call off all their chips...skout... and to explain their idiotic call of your raise that put them allin as a huge dog they write:
" I was pot committed" !
Really not that funny at that time,
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I got called by exactly the same hand very recently in the late stages of a tournament on Stars. Unless I am dominating him I don't want the call, however I am never that upset when I have my money in as a favourite to win the pot. You can't spend time worrying about your opponent making bad calls, because it is a pointless exercise.
PokerStars Game #4908343945: Tournament #24233520, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/05/12 - 03:15:09 (ET)
Table '24233520 15' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: InC0ldBlood (64586 in chips)
Seat 3: EltonCz (31690 in chips)
Seat 4: setupbluff (96339 in chips)
Seat 6: Bloomer (179792 in chips)
Seat 7: HarryKnox (24530 in chips)
Seat 9: VeryCoolGuy8 (54495 in chips)
InC0ldBlood: posts the ante 150
EltonCz: posts the ante 150
setupbluff: posts the ante 150
Bloomer: posts the ante 150
HarryKnox: posts the ante 150
VeryCoolGuy8: posts the ante 150
HarryKnox: posts small blind 1500
VeryCoolGuy8: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HarryKnox [Js Ks]
InC0ldBlood: folds
EltonCz: folds
setupbluff: calls 3000
Bloomer: folds
HarryKnox: raises 21380 to 24380 and is all-in
VeryCoolGuy8: folds
setupbluff: calls 21380
*** FLOP *** [4h 9h 8s]
*** TURN *** [4h 9h 8s] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [4h 9h 8s 5h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HarryKnox: shows [Js Ks] (high card King)
setupbluff: shows [9c Qh] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
HarryKnox said, "gg"
setupbluff collected 52660 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 52660 | Rake 0
Board [4h 9h 8s 5h Qs]
Seat 2: InC0ldBlood folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: EltonCz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: setupbluff showed [9c Qh] and won (52660) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 6: Bloomer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: HarryKnox (small blind) showed [Js Ks] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: VeryCoolGuy8 (big blind) folded before Flop
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