About 3 weeks ago I won my seat to the Main Event on FTP. They sent me an email informing me that they would make wire transfers available, since the Main Event was fast approaching. I did not use this withdrawal option at the time, but after I had a large cash the following week, I decided to withdrawal 5K via wire, so I would have cash in Vegas. After another week of inactivity, I sent Full Tilt an email inquiring about my transfer, and they quickly sent me an email back reassuring me that the transaction was being processed. After over another week of inactivity, I sent them the following note...

To whom it may concern,

I put in for a bankwire withdrawal about 2 weeks ago for 5K have not yet received the money. Has it been cancelled or is it late in arriving. If it was cancelled, can you tell me why?

Regards,

Jeff Gray

And this was their response...

Hello Jeff,

Thank you for contacting Full Tilt Poker Support.

After reviewing your account we can see that your withdrawal request has been declined.

We have reviewed your account and we can see that last time you deposited money into your account to play poker was on 24.January.2007.

Cashier department canceled your withdrawal request because they would like to see some recent play activity in your account. You are having a lot of P2P transfers .

Thank you for your patience and understanding. Full Tilt Poker is dedicated to providing our players with thorough customer service. If you have any other questions, please feel free to email us.

Regards,

Tarkan
Full Tilt Poker Support

So I have a couple of questions...

We have reviewed your account and we can see that last time you deposited money into your account to play poker was on 24.January.2007.

Does this mean, I can only withdraw my money if I deposit more?

Cashier department canceled your withdrawal request because they would like to see some recent play activity in your account. You are having a lot of P2P transfers .

I had over 50K in mtt cashes the week before I made the 5K withdrawal request. Are they asking me to spread some rake around in cash and sng's? In terms of "a lot of P2P transfers" I bring FTP a nice size revenue stream by staking 10 players on their site. Are they asking me to take my business elsewhere?

This really looks like FTP is trying to coerce me to keep funds on their site. Is anyone else having similar experiences?

Full Tilt Poker...

Learn, chat and deposit with the pros (or you can't cash out).

what was your reply to them?

obviosuly they are concerned about money launering here I think..... even though I'm assuming yu havent been diong that ta all... and it's BS you can't get your money.

Have you asked them what *proofs* they need so you can get your money?

If there isnt more to this than what you are saying, I would write back and explain alot like what you did here. I do not think they wont there site to be considered a money laudering site, which in your case is what it looks like. If you won 50k in mtts in a week I dont see what p2p transfers have anything to do with getting your money off, say you have a stable of horses or something.

I mean, if youre cashing out all this money without playing on their site, I can see where they are coming from. In their mind, you're getting all this money transfered to you, and youre generating a small amount of rake, so they are basically giving you money. I can see what they're saying. There's nothing wrong with them being cautious here, just look at it from their business perspective.

 

Originally Posted by Chazley

I mean, if youre cashing out all this money without playing on their site, I can see where they are coming from. In their mind, you're getting all this money transfered to you, and youre generating a small amount of rake, so they are basically giving you money. I can see what they're saying. There's nothing wrong with them being cautious here, just look at it from their business perspective.

Level? I hope...

 

Originally Posted by supra1988t

 

Originally Posted by Chazley

I mean, if youre cashing out all this money without playing on their site, I can see where they are coming from. In their mind, you're getting all this money transfered to you, and youre generating a small amount of rake, so they are basically giving you money. I can see what they're saying. There's nothing wrong with them being cautious here, just look at it from their business perspective.

Level? I hope...

Are you leveling me?

Take a minute to think about it from their perspective is all I'm saying.

I thought this was standard?

No one can cash out unless they've deposited...

 

Originally Posted by Chazley

I mean, if youre cashing out all this money without playing on their site, I can see where they are coming from. In their mind, you're getting all this money transfered to you, and youre generating a small amount of rake, so they are basically giving you money. I can see what they're saying. There's nothing wrong with them being cautious here, just look at it from their business perspective.

..........Open the OPs profile. He has obviously deposited before. The e-mail said he hadn't deposited since 1/07 which is obvious considering he prolly hasn't needed to. So yea this is pretty ridiculous on fulltilts part.

Edit: And he's obviously played before.

Sick brag about ur FTP working.....

 

Originally Posted by jeffbeesdat

Cashier department canceled your withdrawal request because they would like to see some recent play activity in your account.

So, just looking at your last month or so (to keep it recent), you've played several dozen events. You won a $12,000 ME package plus much more.

How do they expect you to obtain your winnings?

If they have a concern over 'excessive' player transfers, shouldn't they deal with this in some other manner? Isn't each individual transfer 'approved' as it is requested?

This sounds like standard FTP shadyness...I see these type of posts day-in and day-out....I just can't fathom why people still play there.

I'm not sure which is more pathetic, the way they worded that email or their total disregard for the actual facts .

Well FTPDoug, I know your on these forums, lets hear what you have to say about this. In other words, that bullshit. Good luck man.

Horrid. GFY FT.
Hope it works out, please keep us posted.

What a bunch of fucking nonsense. The only businesses that can get away with this shit are ones that don't have fucking phone numbers.

There's no way that they'd be able to defend their actions without sounding like complete douchebags.