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Queston on WCOOP 215 hand. Early to mid stages with AK

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  1. coastalpgm coastalpgm is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:07am)

    My girlfriend(sik brag i know) and I were discussiing about how to play AK in this spot. below is the hh and the aim convo we had about the hand.

    pokerstars Game #50219337843: Tournament #2010090060, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (400/800) - 2010/09/26 18:13:40 ET
    Table '2010090060 1061' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
    Seat 1: lankeshwar (28235 in chips)
    Seat 2: JamsLaNoche (29280 in chips)
    Seat 3: MBN2BMe (16900 in chips)
    Seat 4: mickthedig (37202 in chips)
    Seat 5: fanetutu (18494 in chips)
    Seat 6: WestMenlo92 (7342 in chips)
    Seat 7: MattDVD (27745 in chips)
    Seat 8: KingBalls123 (31926 in chips)
    Seat 9: m0rtengud (78465 in chips)
    lankeshwar: posts the ante 100
    JamsLaNoche: posts the ante 100
    MBN2BMe: posts the ante 100
    mickthedig: posts the ante 100
    fanetutu: posts the ante 100
    WestMenlo92: posts the ante 100
    MattDVD: posts the ante 100
    KingBalls123: posts the ante 100
    m0rtengud: posts the ante 100
    mickthedig: posts small blind 400
    fanetutu: posts big blind 800
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to KingBalls123 [Ah Kd]
    WestMenlo92: folds
    MattDVD: folds
    KingBalls123: raises 1200 to 2000
    m0rtengud: folds
    lankeshwar: calls 2000
    JamsLaNoche: folds
    MBN2BMe: folds
    mickthedig: raises 4400 to 6400
    KingBalls123: raises 25426 to 31826 and is all-in
    lankeshwar: folds
    mickthedig:

    her: I think you should have flat u had pos and u need the chips
    me: ya, but he c bets 100%
    me: i cant really call on most flops
    her: u could of raised his c bet
    me: would hvae been for my whole stack
    her either way it was for your whole stack
    me: u make a really good point
    me: if he is c betting 100%
    her: right
    me: calling and shoving is prob better
    her: i thought so

    If he is c betting 100% i am thinking in is def better to call and shove almost every flop, but obv we have a player to act behind and i dont want to invite him into the pot. What do you all do here?

    ps. I searched for some info on the players involved, I dont have any reason to suspect the three bettor could be light, and i also dont have much info on the flatter. I am still trying to dig up some info, i now think that the three bettor was infact a pretty laggy player.

    I really felt he would be c betting 100% of flops.

    Thanks.
    Edited By: coastalpgm Oct 2nd, 2010 at 07:12 AM
  2. Deoxyribo Deoxyribo is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:14am) in reply to coastalpgm

    standard imo
     
  3. coastalpgm coastalpgm is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:16am) in reply to Deoxyribo

     
    Originally Posted by Deoxyribo View Post

    standard imo

    standard shove?
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  4. Jwilkinson Jwilkinson is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:28am) in reply to coastalpgm

    looks like a standard shove to me but im just a recreational player
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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 5:24pm) in reply to Jwilkinson

    i take both lines here with ak shoving pre sometimes jamming c-bet as well
     
  6. leakinmoney leakinmoney is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 7:19pm) in reply to coastalpgm

    ur gf is wrong
     
  7. coastalpgm coastalpgm is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 8:51pm) in reply to leakinmoney

     
    Originally Posted by leakinmoney View Post

    ur gf is wrong

    is she is wrong beacuse there is a player to act behind? or would she still be wrong if we were heads up? Thanks for the response. A little more info would be appreciated.
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  8. leakinmoney leakinmoney is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 8:57pm) in reply to coastalpgm

     
    Originally Posted by coastalpgm View Post

    is she is wrong beacuse there is a player to act behind? or would she still be wrong if we were heads up? Thanks for the response. A little more info would be appreciated.

    i kind of misread the hh but im still 4 betting... bc of the caller behind yea but also bc it looks like a squeeze n id expect to get calls from aq maybe aj n also alot of folds which is ok i dont think u wanna be seeing a flop anyway if he has hand like 89s
     
  9. Decatur217 Decatur217 is offline OTs Iron Man

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 9:17pm) in reply to leakinmoney

    Pics of said gf as she understands this game....perhaps she is like Lauren Kling and I want to see.

    Pics immed.
  10. bcdrmr bcdrmr is offline 3 of a kind > flush????

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 9:22pm) in reply to Decatur217

     
    Originally Posted by Decatur217 View Post

    Pics of said gf as she understands this game....perhaps she is like Lauren Kling and I want to see.

    Pics immed.

    lol was only a matter of time... surprised it took this long...
  11. GutShotBen GutShotBen is offline

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    Oct 2nd, 2010 (10/2/2010 9:32pm) in reply to bcdrmr

    super standard shove
     
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