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  1. I'd been playing live then online for hours and hours a week from about 2001 to 2006. A few years in a row I went out to Vegas when the WSOP was going on...it was cool going to some of the website's parties...especially in the earlier years because they were easy to get into...then they started getting harder to get into.

    Anyway...after that Summer of 06, the legal problems online poker was facing, and most importantly the fact that I pretty much was totally burned out...I all but quit playing poker. The last year and a half I was doing a lot of proping and boy was it a grid. I made decent money but nothing special...nothing worth quiting a real job over...besides I work for myself anyway.

    I really havent missed poker one bit. I miss playing live and going to vegas...but that has nothing to do really with making money playing poker.

    So in the last year and a half...what's changed with the online games? Seems like from the time I started playing online the games only got tougher. Players seemed to wise up quite a bit...in my mind the golden age of online games being soft was back in 2002-2004. How are games now? Are you seeing your hourly rate in cash games go down a little? I never really got into tournaments but I always felt the overall tournament players...not the top players but the average tournament player was a lot less skilled than a cash game player....is this still true today? Any major shifts in the last year and a half?

    I don't really play poker anymore but still consider myself a fan. I still check the sites like this and cardplayer from time to time.
  2. Since all the legality bullshit, the games have gotten significantly tougher. The $$$ that flows like it did 03-05 are in games other than NLHE.

    Cash players have more experience playing all 3 streets, so yes, I personally still consider them the better player, but tourney poker is more advanced than it was as well.

    The biggest difference between '04 and now is that the uber-passive calling stations that were all over the place then are gone and replaced by hyper-aggressive pushbots. They don't understand the game, but they know shoving chips works better.
  3. Yeah a passive idiot player is always better than an aggressive idiot player...the aggressive guy doesnt know it but he is at least making less mistakes usually. Most of 06 I started playing nothing but Stud 8 or better, O8B,...pretty much anything because it seemed the 1/2 and 2/4nl holdem games I was playing started to get harder...my swings were higher and my win rate was down....plus I got bored of NL holdem being the only game people knew how to play well. Seemed like those other games were much softer...I could play lower and make more. I'm sure people are catching up now in those games as well since HORSE has now caught on.
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  4. That's why I left small win rates at 25 and 50 NL to be a balla @ 2-7 triple draw lowball

    Not Waco quality balla, but balla enough to pay billz with teh pokah moneyz
  5. Triple draw is one game I never really learned to play enough to make any money on. It's good that you expanded. I think playing the other games kept me in poker for another year or so...but after a while it was still the same ole grind for me.
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