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  1. apartment_4 apartment_4 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:30pm)

    shdiosaudjo why cant people fold when they know they are behind

    pokerstars Game #12809457891: Tournament #64641906, 500+30 Razz Limit - Level III (40/80) - 2007/10/23 - 22:29:06 (ET)
    Table '64641906 104' 8-max
    Seat 1: vegas141 (1159 in chips)
    Seat 2: Apartment_4 (1744 in chips)
    Seat 3: nutandmeg (863 in chips)
    Seat 4: TenPoundSac (1856 in chips)
    Seat 5: floped again (2808 in chips)
    Seat 6: Axts (902 in chips)
    Seat 7: kantreadthis (1172 in chips)
    Seat 8: Mike killer (1496 in chips)
    vegas141: posts the ante 8
    Apartment_4: posts the ante 8
    nutandmeg: posts the ante 8
    TenPoundSac: posts the ante 8
    floped again: posts the ante 8
    Axts: posts the ante 8
    kantreadthis: posts the ante 8
    Mike killer: posts the ante 8
    *** 3rd STREET ***
    Dealt to vegas141 [6s]
    Dealt to Apartment_4 [8c 4c 6d]
    Dealt to nutandmeg [Tc]
    Dealt to TenPoundSac [Td]
    Dealt to floped again [5s]
    Dealt to Axts [3d]
    Dealt to kantreadthis [7h]
    Dealt to Mike killer [3s]
    TenPoundSac: brings in for 12
    floped again: folds
    Axts: calls 12
    kantreadthis: calls 12
    Mike killer: raises 28 to 40
    vegas141: folds
    vegas141 is sitting out
    Apartment_4: raises 40 to 80
    nutandmeg: folds
    TenPoundSac: folds
    Axts: folds
    kantreadthis: calls 68
    Mike killer: raises 40 to 120
    Apartment_4: calls 40
    kantreadthis: calls 40
    *** 4th STREET ***
    Dealt to Apartment_4 [8c 4c 6d] [Ts]
    Dealt to kantreadthis [7h] [8d]
    Dealt to Mike killer [3s] [Qs]
    kantreadthis: checks
    Mike killer: checks
    Apartment_4: bets 40
    kantreadthis: calls 40
    Mike killer: calls 40
    *** 5th STREET ***
    Dealt to Apartment_4 [8c 4c 6d Ts] [9d]
    Dealt to kantreadthis [7h 8d] [Jd]
    Dealt to Mike killer [3s Qs] [4d]
    Apartment_4 said, "u got a-2 in there?"
    Apartment_4: bets 80
    kantreadthis: folds
    Apartment_4 said, "your obv behind"
    Mike killer: calls 80
    *** 6th STREET ***
    Dealt to Apartment_4 [8c 4c 6d Ts 9d] [3c]
    Dealt to Mike killer [3s Qs 4d] [8s]
    Apartment_4: bets 80
    Mike killer: raises 80 to 160
    Apartment_4 said, "now u have an 8 low"
    Apartment_4: calls 80
    *** RIVER ***
    Dealt to Apartment_4 [8c 4c 6d Ts 9d 3c] [Kc]
    Apartment_4: checks
    Apartment_4 said, "nice so"
    Apartment_4 said, "just bet already"
    Mike killer: bets 80
    Apartment_4: calls 80
    *** SHOW DOWN ***
    Mike killer: shows [2h 6h 3s Qs 4d 8s 2c] (Lo: 8,6,4,3,2)
    Apartment_4: shows [8c 4c 6d Ts 9d 3c Kc] (Lo: 9,8,6,4,3)
    Mike killer collected 1208 from pot
    floped again said, "lol"
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Total pot 1208 | Rake 0
    Seat 1: vegas141 folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
    Seat 2: Apartment_4 showed [8c 4c 6d Ts 9d 3c Kc] and lost with Lo: 9,8,6,4,3
    Seat 3: nutandmeg folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
    Seat 4: TenPoundSac folded on the 3rd Street
    Seat 5: floped again folded on the 3rd Street (didn't bet)
    Seat 6: Axts folded on the 3rd Street
    Seat 7: kantreadthis folded on the 5th Street
    Seat 8: Mike killer showed [2h 6h 3s Qs 4d 8s 2c] and won (1208) with Lo: 8,6,4,3,2
  2. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:35pm) in reply to apartment_4

    Joke post?

    You reraise a guy at a full table with an ugly 8? And with a good chunk of the cards you need already out there? He played his hand fine. You played your hand like an idiot.

    Oh, just realized this is a play money tourney too.

    I officially hate you.
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  3. apartment_4 apartment_4 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:37pm) in reply to shanetrain22

    :)
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  4. delete22 delete22 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:39pm) in reply to apartment_4

    R U KIDDING ME PLAY MONEY
  5. apartment_4 apartment_4 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:40pm) in reply to delete22

    no what the fuck do u think it is?

    obv u didnt read my post in the other thread

    shut the fuck up
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  6. delete22 delete22 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:41pm) in reply to apartment_4

    if it is as worthless as this post obviously i am not reading it
  7. apartment_4 apartment_4 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:43pm) in reply to delete22

    all it said was I took a couple bad beats at hardrock so now im playing in a razz freeroll on stars because stars doing have razz for money and I felt like playing razz

    thats it
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  8. delete22 delete22 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:48pm) in reply to apartment_4

    so why post a play money hand.....
  9. apartment_4 apartment_4 is offline

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    Oct 23rd, 2007 (10/23/2007 10:50pm) in reply to delete22

    just didnt know why he was still calling knowing he was behind

    maybe im use to playing with razz players who know how to play..i dunno

    first razz freeroll on stars
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  10. Doctor Razz Doctor Razz is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 11:41am) in reply to apartment_4

    I fail to see a single street where you were a mathematical favorite. nh
  11. vegie_1999 vegie_1999 is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 11:49am) in reply to Doctor Razz

    wow your a retard.... ITS A FREEROLL !!! ppl call with ANY chance of winning the hand !!!

    MAN.... stop posting already !
     
  12. dtools22 dtools22 is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 12:09pm) in reply to apartment_4

    I'll humor this post with a response even thought this is play-money. At no one point were you ahead in this hand, yes you have a T-low to his Q-low, but he could have won with an A, 5, 7, 8, or 9. By my count that gives him 15 outs against you with the cards that are exposed. He has pleanty of ammo to chase this one down. He played the hand fine, you serverly overvalued your hand.
  13. BudmansCom BudmansCom is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 12:14pm) in reply to dtools22

    "...you serverly overvalued your hand"

    Don't you say undervalued if it's razz? ;-)
  14. RandyLerch RandyLerch is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 12:21pm) in reply to apartment_4

    even though this was play money it shows the value of razz because people have NO CLUE when they have the best or the worst of it

    just because you have the nuts if the hand ended on 5th street does not mean its "the best hand" at that stage

    for instance as an extreme example K5432 would be a HUGE HUGE HUGE favorite over QJ975 even though the Queen low is winning on 5th.

    A.J.
  15. MattyDaCobra MattyDaCobra is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 12:28pm) in reply to apartment_4

    Once again you played this fine and got unlucky. 864 is not a great starting hand but putting in an extra bet on 3rd street is always good and helps to narrow the field early. I especially like your comment on 6th street: "now u have an 8 low". It's tricky and makes him wonder if you were dealt an extra down card and maybe he is behind. Plus if he actually has 2 pair or something and is bluff raising with his possible 8 against your made T then he will fire again on the river thinking you will lay down, thus winning you an extra bet.
     
  16. Doctor Razz Doctor Razz is offline

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    Oct 24th, 2007 (10/24/2007 5:54pm) in reply to RandyLerch

    You're way too logical for this thread
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