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  1. pinishe45 pinishe45 is offline

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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 2:30am)

    ok so ima throw out a sitsuation o have been encountering lately....

    u 3 bet an open, with the intention of calling/5b shoving...due to hand strength/history etc., but u get cold 4 bet shoved on....

    i obv always like to have a plan when 3betting, but i guess my question is, does ur plan change when unknown villian enters and how so??
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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 2:36am) in reply to pinishe45

    the cold 4bet is so rare that you gotta make an exception. idk if ur were planning on 3b/C the OR but the cold 4bett is JJ+ AK and the pot odds arent in ur favor then dont get stubborn.
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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 2:46am) in reply to poisoneye1986

    well i dont have hh but heres the example...

    hero. 3500
    op. 1100
    4better. 3000
    25-50, villian opens 150. i 3bet akss to 400, and get 4b shoved for 3k
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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 2:52am) in reply to pinishe45

    Depends on your read on the cold 4-better. In the example you gave, if you 3-bet to 400 with AKss and only have 700 left behind, I'm definitely calling regardless of what action is behind me (unless of course it would result in some sort of ICM disaster).
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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 2:56am) in reply to Jason2890

     
    Originally Posted by Jason2890 View Post

    Depends on your read on the cold 4-better. In the example you gave, if you 3-bet to 400 with AKss and only have 700 left behind, I'm definitely calling regardless of what action is behind me (unless of course it would result in some sort of ICM disaster).

    id have 3100 behind after 3bet
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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 3:22am) in reply to pinishe45

     
    Originally Posted by pinishe45 View Post

    well i dont have hh but heres the example...

    hero. 3500
    op. 1100
    4better. 3000
    25-50, villian opens 150. i 3bet akss to 400, and get 4b shoved for 3k

    seriously?
     
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    Nov 18th, 2010 (11/18/2010 3:25am) in reply to pinishe45

     
    Originally Posted by pinishe45 View Post

    id have 3100 behind after 3bet

    Oh, my mistake, I took "op" to meant original poster, so I misread that. Anyway, it depends on your table image, his table image, buy-in, etc. If it's low stakes I'm probably calling assuming he's just spazzing out, especially if he's an active player.
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