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  1. mhoddi mhoddi is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:43pm)

    I see that Lee Jones said "* We are returning the money he won illicitly to players who were harmed by his actions in those same tournaments."

    Here's the thing, I finished 5th in the stars 500K the day he won it. Now, he won it under ZeeJustin obv, so I don not have any proof that he used multiple accts that day, and I'm not accusing him of it either. However, if he did...well, you know what I'm getting to. Anyway, I realize that his friends probably will not divulge, but since the money has already been taken out of his stars accounts, I don't think it hurts to let me know at this point. So basically, if you know for a fact that Zee used more than 1 account that day I'd a appreciate a PM (I don't expect you to reply to this), and you have my word that it will be kept 100% confidential if you're worried about that.

    Anyway, the jump from 5th to 4th went from 30K and change to approx 41K I believe, so you understand my interest. Flame away if you want, it's just a question.

    Thx in advance,

    Mike
     
  2. ronjon13 ronjon13 is offline

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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:46pm) in reply to mhoddi

    lee said he checked that out and that zj only used one accout that day
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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:48pm) in reply to ronjon13

    Really? Could you post the link if you have it please?

    Thx.
     
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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:49pm) in reply to mhoddi

    lee's response
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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:49pm) in reply to ronjon13

    from twoplustwo <TABLE class=tableborders cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=3 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=darktable vAlign=top width="17%" rowSpan=2>Lee Jones
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    Loc: San Jose, CA </SPAN></TD><TD class=subjecttable width="83%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left width="70%"> Re: ZeeJustin at pokerstars, encore
    02/26/06 10:32 PM </TD><TD align=right width="30%"><TABLE class=tablesurround border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=navigation noWrap> Edit </TD><TD class=navigation noWrap> Reply </TD><TD class=navigation noWrap> Quote </TD><TD class=navigation noWrap ;> Quick Reply </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=lighttable width="83%">Hi folks -

    As regards ZeeJustin...

    1. He had a single extra PokerStars account which he rarely used.

    2. His big tournament win on PokerStars was legitimate (we checked it carefully). The amount of money that we ascribed to illicit play was relatively small (less than $5K), and we confiscated that entire amount. We permitted him to cash out the balance over that.

    Now, this thread was about ZeeJustin, so that's what I discussed. As regards the larger issue...

    We have tools to check and are constantly improving them. It is true that a higher priority for us was catching colluders in ring games and in tournaments and less so on catching players who used more than one account to try to avoid data miners or use mutiple entries in tournaments without colluding.

    But I promise you that it's already gotten a lot harder to multi-account successfully on PokerStars, and is going to become more so.

    We have investigations underway that are not party-induced, and we'll continue to be proactive about locating and punishing cheaters. In these two cases, we followed Party's lead because the initial reports of cheating went to Party.

    Remember, we have a full-time staff of people who do nothing but catch colluders (who may be one person operating two mice). These collusion catchers have been doing their job for years. Many of you have received credits from us when you were an unknowing victim of collusion. We just don't post them on 2+2.

    In summary, we are working hard to maintain our site’s integrity, and now see how we can do better. We're on it right now.

    Best regards,
    Lee Jones

    PokerStars Poker Room Manager

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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:50pm) in reply to mhoddi

    It is in the 2+2 thread on ZeeJustin, too lazy to find it myself, but you can find Lee's response on the ZJ thread on that forum, basically Lee just said that they checked that tourney throughly.
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    Mar 1st, 2006 (3/1/2006 8:51pm) in reply to slugo5

    ty guys.
     
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