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The reason AP pulled the WSAP

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  1. annie duke annie duke is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 3:28pm)

    Hi All--

    I am not a rep of AP nor do I consult or work for them but I just wanted to clarify why the WSAP promotion came down. The WSOP has very strict rules about how US Facing online sites can use their name or imply an association with them. Here are the rules: http://www.worldseriesofpoker.com/pd...guidelines.pdf

    AP was alerted that the promotion was in violation of these rules and so immediately took it down to remain compliant. No one in the new management of AP wants to violate any rules or piss off the WSOP.

    I hope that clears that up for you guys.

    Annie
  2. prostuntman prostuntman is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 3:35pm) in reply to annie duke

    thank you for clearing that up annie, makes perfect sense
  3. threebanger threebanger is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 3:43pm) in reply to annie duke

     
    Originally Posted by annie duke View Post

    Hi All--

    I am not a rep of AP nor do I consult or work for them

    Annie

    Then why does your name appear in their TV commercials?
  4. MUPokerPlayer MUPokerPlayer is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 3:54pm) in reply to annie duke

    It doesn't say anywhere on that page that you can't call your promotion "World Series of Absolute Poker".

    If they were worried about the name overlap, why didn't they just rename it instead of scrapping the whole idea?

    cough *bs* cough.
  5. allynlong allynlong is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 3:54pm) in reply to threebanger

    Couldnt have just changed a few letters , they had to cancel the whole thing? Keep trying u might get 1 somebody would believe...
  6. SpankyHamm SpankyHamm is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 3:57pm) in reply to annie duke

    MSOP is OK, but WSAP is not?
     
  7. Dizz05 Dizz05 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:07pm) in reply to SpankyHamm

    good point
  8. Phi Phi is offline aka tennisee

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:08pm) in reply to annie duke

    *sniff* *sniff*

    .....*sniff* *sniff* *sniff*

    ........anyone else smell that?
  9. SQQTED SQQTED is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:09pm) in reply to threebanger

     
    Originally Posted by threebanger View Post

     
    Originally Posted by annie duke View Post

    Hi All--

    I am not a rep of AP nor do I consult or work for them

    Annie

    Then why does your name appear in their TV commercials?

    If AP and UB are really owned by Tokwiro (aka Joe Norton) doesn't your paycheck come from the same owner? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokwiro_Enterprises

    http://pokerworks.com/article-1371.html
  10. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:10pm) in reply to annie duke

    yeah, this is still stupid. all they had to do was change all their pages to say, world championship of absolute poker, absolute poker championship, or 'insert name here championship.
  11. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:38pm) in reply to annie duke

    so change the name?

    AP sucks
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  12. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:42pm) in reply to TheWacoKidd

    Its kinda scary how unaccountable all these poker sites really are.

    They answer to basically no one. Pull whatever shit they feel like with little to no consequences whatsoever.
  13. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:45pm) in reply to Fife19

     
    Originally Posted by Fife19 View Post

    Its kinda scary how unaccountable all these poker sites really are.

    They answer to basically no one. Pull whatever shit they feel like with little to no consequences whatsoever.

    'they' meaning ub and absolute. and probably a bunch of other little small sites
  14. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:46pm) in reply to downbylaw11

    No, all the sites. We're just lucky that PS and FTP are properly run(for the most part)
  15. A Bloomfield A Bloomfield is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:48pm) in reply to annie duke

    Before running a promotion the people at AP didn't know this?

    I thought AP and UB are trying to show us that things are changing and the new management knows what they are doing?

    More ineptness from you guys, starting to think things haven't changed a bit.
  16. I Spew Chips I Spew Chips is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:48pm) in reply to Fife19

    lmao who cares...that site is garbage anyways
     
  17. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 4:58pm) in reply to A Bloomfield

    I had never played at absolute poker before the scandal broke, and I just started playing there a few weeks ago since I was under the impression that they were getting their shit together. but in a span of 2 weeks, I have had to experiences with braindead support staff. this being one of them
    the other was also in regards to the wsap and their points leaderboard. i wanted to be able to calculate how many leaderboard points i was getting so i'd know if i had moved up or not after a tourney since they don't update the board for a few days. So I emailed them asking if their formula for the wsap was the same as their tlb formula, to which they said yes and told me i had 40 points on the leaderboard lol. even though using their tlb formula i had roughly 1000 points on the leaderboard, which the tlb leaderboard confirmed. so i emailed them back to tell them they were definitely wrong and to find out the real formula, and they eventually emailed me back saying I was right, and that they would 'look into it for me' and email me back when they figured out the true formula. Of course they never emailed me back (this was a week ago) and have since pulled the promotion all together. I'm pretty sure their support staff are just prison inmates making 10 cents an hour
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:18pm) in reply to annie duke

    I wonder if the WSOP checked with MLB back when they started.
  19. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:20pm) in reply to BudmansCom

    lol yeah. i think the world series of cockfighting is in trouble too
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:27pm) in reply to annie duke

    Again I ask, if you are not a rep of AP or work for them in any way, why do they say you are one of their "pro" trainers on their TV commercials?

    Even more DUH, if what you say is true, why would you be on here trying to clear this up for AP? Why would you say you "wanted to clarify" this?
  21. DoubleS00ted DoubleS00ted is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:45pm) in reply to annie duke

    Seriously, leave.
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:49pm) in reply to downbylaw11

    You cant just flick a switch and change the name on all that creative used to make up the campaign. I am guessing they will have it fixed and get it back up. They took it down to be compliant as Annie said. Its not a quick fix.
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:56pm) in reply to annie duke

    i love to hear people complaining about the shadiness of an online site that just last year was busted for cheating it's players out of millions of dollars. all i can say is that's what you get for putting your money on that corrupt site!
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:56pm) in reply to annie duke

    Why are we still even talking about UB and AP? If you play there, you can't be sure you'll be treated fairly or get a fair game. I think that's pretty clear. There are lots of very reputable sites around to play on, so let's talk about those and support them. The only way to show the sites that they can't do this shit is to move your money from sites that can't be trusted to sites that can.

    Do you seriously believe that the "old management" was behind the cheating and the new management is totally on the up and up? Don't you think that if you purchased a multi-million dollar company and then found out that the previous owners had cheated the customers and devalued the business immensely in doing so, that you'd probably take legal action? Wouldn't you go after them and make a big deal of it? Smells kinda funny to me.
  25. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:57pm) in reply to DoubleS00ted

     
    Originally Posted by DoubleS00ted View Post

    Seriously, leave.

    seriously, who
  26. TheWacoKidd TheWacoKidd is offline haters gonna hate

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:57pm) in reply to downbylaw11

    use the in reply to button imo... he clearly means OP
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  27. JJDude JJDude is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 5:58pm) in reply to SixPackofBud

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. -George Burns (credit to downbylaw)
     
  28. downbylaw11 downbylaw11 is offline

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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 6:00pm) in reply to JJDude

     
    Originally Posted by JJDude View Post

    The more things change, the more they stay the same. -Some Famous Guy

    george burns?
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 6:12pm) in reply to downbylaw11

    I have no sympathy for anyone that plays at AP or UB and no empathy for whatever horrors may befall you along the way.

    The fact that anyone still plays on either one of them shows how simple minded and gullible the general public really is.

    Unlike US business or regulated businesses in other countries these poker site answer to NO ONE. No laws govern them. They can only be controlled by the support or lack there of by their customers.

    Since you all apparently turn a blind eye to their corruption you continue to enable them to do whatever they want, however they want, whenever they want.

    It's like doing business with the mob. The only difference is at least the mob has an outside chance of having law enforcement intervene. There is no chance of that with these sites.

    Play on and good luck with your roll of the dice.
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    Jun 14th, 2008 (6/14/2008 6:29pm) in reply to SixPackofBud

     
    Originally Posted by SixPackofBud View Post

    i love to hear people complaining about the shadiness of an online site that just last year was busted for cheating it's players out of millions of dollars. all i can say is that's what you get for putting your money on that corrupt site!

    I wouldn't even trust downloading their software onto my computer. Who knows what "previous owners" have been able to get inserted into the client executable.

    With that said, I did play in the P5's freeroll today. But I installed the UB client software on a virtual machine that I deleted after I was out.
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