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  1. Jedi Phil Ivey Jedi Phil Ivey is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 2:45pm)

    pokerstars Game #xxxxxxxxxxxxx: Tournament #xxxxxxxxxxx, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - xxxx/xx/xx xx:xx:xx ET
    Table 'xxxxxxxxxxxxx 21' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
    Seat 1: christurn (8045 in chips)
    Seat 2: scotty_m24 (11219 in chips)
    Seat 3: royalblue (3650 in chips) is sitting out
    Seat 4: uzia06 (7715 in chips)
    Seat 5: Brian2603 (2460 in chips)
    Seat 6: AAGAMBLER (12991 in chips)
    Seat 7: WSOPchamp80 (2678 in chips)
    Seat 8: buldos (8162 in chips)
    Seat 9: Odeymaniac2 (6125 in chips)
    op__1266: posts small blind 25
    Odeymaniac2: posts big blind 50
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Odeymaniac2 [As Ks]

    christurn folds
    scotty_m24 folds
    royalblue folds
    uzia06 folds
    Brian2603 folds
    AAGAMBLER raises 150 to 200
    WSOPchamp80 folds
    buldos folds
    Odeymaniac2 calls 150

    *** FLOP *** [Jc Tc 9s]
    Odeymaniac2 checks
    AAGAMBLER bets 350
    Odeymaniac2 riases 700 to 1050
    AAGAMBLER calls 700

    *** TURN *** [Jc Tc 9s] [2s]
    Odeymaniac2 bets 1850
    AAGAMBLER calls 1850

    *** RIVER *** [Jc Tc 9s 2s] [2d]
    Odeymaniac2 checks
    AAGAMBLER bets 4000

    Odeymaniac2 ????????

    I dunt know why but I didnt feel like 3-betting preflop, also cause were sorta deep. I checkraise flop cuz I figured he is folding a wide range of hands and hopefully pick up the pot right there. I blocker bet the turn becuase we pick up nfd. I dunt see how Villain can have a pair here, his bet on the river makes me sure he has no pair, because he would check behind if he had a pair. Any hand worthy of a v-bet (KQ,JJ,TT,99,QQ) woulda put a raise on the flop or turn cuz of the flush draw(s) . Alot of the hands that beat me(i.e a pair) duesnt bet river here cuz zive showed tremendous strength. Im tryna justify a call and maybe Viallin had AQcc or AKcc.

    Thoughts?

    I TIMEBANKED... AND THEN CALLED. HE HAD A8cc
  2. Fife19 Fife19 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 2:53pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    You made a real mess of this hand. Fold river.
  3. JRoth15 JRoth15 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 3:24pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    c/c flop might be ok...if you do c/c, c/f turn is good...as played, c/f river is great.

    and ew (def not a puke spot)

    also, fife wins.
  4. bluefin bluefin is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 3:36pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    Looks like he hit a J. Possiblly AJ or KJ. If so, I do not like the bet on the river by him. I'd say this is a fold.

    Is this a turbo?
  5. jnelson214 jnelson214 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 4:47pm) in reply to bluefin

    WOW... I think you F'd this hand up from the begining.. Flatting oop is first mistake.

    checkraiseing this flop is OK, i guess not my style but to each is own.

    THe turn is terribad/spew city

    the river is easy fold

    easy game

    to be honest preflop raiser 4x the bb. flop J 10 9.. and u say it isnt in his range? SO what range to u give him 22-88 and AK AQ.. that is it?

    I think that is 100% in his range and i think i check fold flop as played....

    good luck!
     
  6. aad aad is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 5:07pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    you should have raised pre. Since you didn't, check the flop, checkraise is okay. Then faced with resistance after the flop I think you are beat. Bad bet on the river. Fold the turn.
  7. xxbossmanxx xxbossmanxx is offline Plays poker like a X-Boxxx

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 5:17pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    How is this a ridic puke spot with AK on level 3 of a 10 buk MTT and you have ace high?
  8. bk3686 bk3686 is offline

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    Oct 14th, 2008 (10/14/2008 5:22pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    Yea, def just throw it. Like everyone else said here, you def f'd it up. Read the HH and these guys' responses and learn from it.
  9. Jedi Phil Ivey Jedi Phil Ivey is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 4:00am) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    I'll wait for a few more replies before I post results.
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  10. RoyalCrusher RoyalCrusher is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 4:02am) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    this guy owned ur soul and got you to call against his 88
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 4:04am) in reply to RoyalCrusher

    lol at redic puke spot tho
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  12. ripomatic ripomatic is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 5:44am) in reply to RoyalCrusher

    Your villain caught the flop,, IMO...you overplayed your AK like so many do! but it is early in a $10 donkament so your results wont suprise.
  13. ZionFire ZionFire is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 5:49am) in reply to ripomatic

    I wanna puke alright!! and that hh is redics...so ya
  14. shanetrain22 shanetrain22 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 5:58am) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    90% of threads with "puke spot" in the title aren't actually puke spots at all. And this thread is part of the majority.

    But srsly OP, you botched every single street in this hand. Plz tell me you snap-mucked the riv.
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  15. onephine onephine is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 6:02am) in reply to shanetrain22

    what do you want to do post flop, three way?
    cut and run. if you hit your 6 outs then go. otherwise cut tail man.
  16. onephine onephine is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 6:05am) in reply to onephine

    sorry/ check to your 10-11 supposed outs.
  17. onephine onephine is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 6:08am) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    turn is somewhat justified. however, from pre, this is a mess. at no point did you 'take it'/ you let him run.
  18. Jedi Phil Ivey Jedi Phil Ivey is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 1:02pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    bump
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 1:05pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    lol quality bump.
  20. IbizaCF3 IbizaCF3 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 1:07pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    Yeah you def. made a mess of this hand. lol @ flatting oop pf.
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 1:09pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

     
    Originally Posted by Jedi Phil Ivey View Post

    bump

    lol wtf??

    you got like 30 responses that were the exact same...what else do you need?
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 1:45pm) in reply to JRoth15

    he wants more responses before dramatically unveiling the fact he made a terrible call on the river vs a bluff
  23. s00tedj0kers s00tedj0kers is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 2:03pm) in reply to shuggen

    you absolutely butchered this hand. period.
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  24. nowapowa nowapowa is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 2:06pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    "I dunt know why but I didnt feel like 3-betting preflop, also cause were sorta deep."

    Not really sure I understand this reasoning.

    I think you should 3 bet w AK 100% of the time here (regardless of stack size, amirite?).
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 2:23pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    I like all streets up to river.............

    I think min betting the river, then 3bet shoving him is a bit better then the c/call all in...... but its pretty marginal...

    nh
     
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 2:25pm) in reply to redirkulous

     
    Originally Posted by redirkulous View Post

    I like all streets up to river.............

    I think min betting the river, then 3bet shoving him is a bit better then the c/call all in...... but its pretty marginal...

    nh

    You're joking, right?
  27. tom44411 tom44411 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 3:08pm) in reply to onephine

    i puked at how it was played. you went from trapping pre to turning your hand into a bluff post
     
  28. Jedi Phil Ivey Jedi Phil Ivey is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 6:09pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    results up now
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  29. djkelly69 djkelly69 is offline

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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 7:19pm) in reply to Jedi Phil Ivey

    Its a 4x cutoff raise, reraise pre.

    As played, I am maybe peeling on flop since we are deep, but check fold doesnt seem too bad.

    Among other things from the OP, its a $10 tourney, how can you be sure he checks behind a pair there and raises turn with hands that beat you? And checking that river is not showing tremendous strength.

    And the point of this thread just became pretty obvious...
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    Oct 15th, 2008 (10/15/2008 7:28pm) in reply to Fife19

     
    Originally Posted by Fife19 View Post

     
    Originally Posted by redirkulous View Post

    I like all streets up to river.............

    I think min betting the river, then 3bet shoving him is a bit better then the c/call all in...... but its pretty marginal...

    nh

    You're joking, right?

    I didn't think it was possible for anyone to miss the sarcasm in that post.

    I stand corrected.
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